hedging stock with index options

Discussion in 'Options' started by Baozi, May 2, 2019.

  1. Baozi

    Baozi

    This makes a lot of sense.
     
    #11     May 4, 2019
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  2. Baozi

    Baozi

    The base assumption for me taking the trade is that the stock will outperform the index. Assuming I am long puts, my expectation is that eventually the stock gains will outsize the put losses. I agree with you that having a perfect hedge is useless, but consider that the deltas of the options are dynamic while the deltas of the stock are almost static (depending on the correlation). You could have a situation where you start with a partial hedge that becomes full as the stock tanks.
     
    #12     May 4, 2019
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  3. ETJ

    ETJ

    You don't need a perfect correlation in most cases. In fact, often, the more perfect the hedge - for many instruments or baskets - the more expensive. If I can hedge out 80% of a big move against me - that may be the best I can actually achieve.
     
    #13     May 4, 2019
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    Good comments.

    Yes, anytime you trade a pair or combinations, there is usually a hedge somewhere: a spread is a hedge.
     
    #14     May 4, 2019
  5. Baozi

    Baozi

    My big unanswered question here, (cit. Destriero) is not about edge but about structure. What is the best way to hedge this trade? long puts or short calls? Buy a few ATM or buy a lot OTM? If starting with a partial hedge how much % to cover? I was hoping that some of the big options guys on ET would chime in to give some insight.
     
    #15     May 5, 2019