Hedge Funds Shut as Managers Struggle in Year of Two Percent Returns

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Banjo, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. loyek590

    loyek590

    18 years? I suppose to a young man, 18 years must seem like a really long time
     
    #21     Dec 7, 2014
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I was referencing the time this website has been in existence.
     
    #22     Dec 7, 2014
  3. Zap777

    Zap777

    First off, not that many hedge funds are able to command 2/20 from the market anymore. Some of the very high profile ones still do, but the majority of funds nowadays are raising money at closer to a 1/20 or 0/30 level. Each time I hear "2/20" thrown around in the media I lose more hope in the idea that journalists are not merely randomly selected to write stories of a given word length.

    So, no one is really paying "2/20" for subpar hedge fund performance. They are paying something more along the lines of mutual fund management fees (they are a business that needs revenue to operate, after all), and they only make their 20 if the fund makes money (always subject to a high water mark).

    Look at AQR's recent offerings. A bunch of 40-Act funds. No 2/20 going on here. I'm not going to comment on Cliff Asness' investing prowess, but my opinion is that he definitely knows how to run a hedge fund as a business, and he is fully aware that this is where the business is heading.
     
    #23     Dec 7, 2014
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    It seems like the ignorance is worse now than a few years ago (when I joined the site)
     
    #24     Dec 7, 2014