Hedge-fund prodigy takes a $300 million hit

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by RedDuke, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. Guile

    Guile

    Fuck.
    Darwin award winner.
     
    #31     Nov 10, 2015
  2. I don't know why Matador only took in $500 million-- perhaps that was all he was comfortable with or needed at the time-- remember, VN is old school when $100 million was considered huge----

    Obviously, low vol returns are obtain the most capital due to the institutional allocators such as pension funds etc demanding the low vol returns.

    Remember, I work with small niche capacity restrained funds, i don't know much about the goliaths of the business.

    surf
     
    #32     Nov 10, 2015

  3. Would have been a hero had things gone the other way----
     
    #33     Nov 10, 2015
  4. Guile

    Guile

    If that is true, why are you generalizing? Your niche market is obviously not representative of the industry as a whole.
     
    #34     Nov 10, 2015
  5. Guile

    Guile

    I can only repeat myself.
     
    #35     Nov 10, 2015
  6. destriero

    destriero


    $100MM was considered huge in 1998?
     
    #36     Nov 10, 2015
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  7. Guile

    Guile

    Nice catch. Ltcm, quantum and several other funds were active at that time. Hedge funds were mainstream by 1998.
     
    #37     Nov 10, 2015
  8. destriero

    destriero


    This post is diametrically-opposed to your previous that stated that WS rewards the reckless and concentrated while kicking the low-vol to the curb. So now the big money goes to firms with low variance...

    So which is it?
     
    #38     Nov 10, 2015
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  9. Wasn't merriweather funded with another billion plus after ltcm? I think its proven that the bigger you blow up the more money you get next time-- sure there's exceptions.

    Heck, VN is an example. Matador was his largest operation by far.
     
    #39     Nov 10, 2015
  10. For non institutionalized type operations, sure-- it is still big for single manager outsourcing types.
     
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    #40     Nov 10, 2015