...who needs to insist "God" doesn't exist when there is no evidence of, or necessity for a universe to need one ? What's "God" supposed to be anyway? And because you can't properly establish a "God", doesn't then mean everyone else has to establish there isn't one. On the possible existence of the Tooth Fairy.... never say never .
Excellent quote and thank you for engaging in serious discussing. In your last paragraph you nailed it. Our universe looks -- see quote above "extraordinarily fine tuned". That is evidence of a creator. However, Hawking goes on to explain that theoretical physics allows (this is very speculative and there is no proof) there could be almost infinite other universes. -- So that is the point... of where many scientists are right now. You can observe the extraordinary fine tunings in our universe... leading a person with a brain to realize... those fine tunings need a tuner... in absence of new findings. or you can BELIEVE there are trillions and trillions of other so far unobserved universes... where anything can and has happened. leading to the statement... evidence of God or the necessity of unicorns but not neither.
Hawking is in the book selling business. So, it is a safe bet that his book advertized as "The Answer" can't really deliver it.
"Throughout history, God has been shrinking. The time when the world was small and God was in control is always in the far distant, half-remembered past. The closer we approach to the present, the less common miracles are and the less accessible he becomes, until the present day when divine activity has dwindled until it is indistinguishable from the nonexistent. Where the Bible tells us God once shaped worlds out of the void and parted great seas with the power of his word, today his most impressive acts seem to be shaping sticky buns into the likenesses of saints and conferring vaguely-defined warm feelings on his believers' hearts when they attend church. "
It's amazing how you can take an entire passage from a book that explains why there is no creator, read one simple sentence (our universe looks extraordinarily fine tuned), and somehow determine that this means a creator exists. I think you are delusional, and unable to see the other side of the argument. Just keep on donating to the pot every Sunday at church and you will be happy for all eternity.
Actually this adds credibility to Hawking's argument because he would surely sell more books had he come to the conclusion that yes, a creator does exist.
hold your horses, young man! wait until Hawking's book #3 (aka "Book of revelations about the REAL design of the Universe") comes out in a few years
The fact that the universe is fine tuned does not mean by any means that there must be a "tuner" as you say. It simply means that the underlying structure of the universe is uncomparibly much better at sef'-regulating than the so-called "free market"
If you are not a g*d fearing man of faith, then you will be damned to an eternity of reading et threads. Pass me the good book quick
..and a tuner needs what ...a creator or another tuner.... Infinite regress ..... "engaging in serious discussing".. Lol.