I've never heard an argument on the side of God that doesn't end with: A. "because its in the bible" B. "because God said so" C. "You can't prove its not true so therefore it must be true." I am not convinced. I like Hawking's: "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark."
It's because science is not just another opinion, people like Stephen Hawking do know and can show how gravity would be the 'father of creation'. They may be wrong, but instead of just another opinion, it is science which will be able to tell. There is however only opinion, wishful thinking and superstition purporting a supernatural creator, as the ever to be un-explained, unaswerable question begging, imaginary, missing and ultimately unnecessary parent. That is always going to be wronger!
This sounds nice, but why should one be afraid of the dark, when the one who should percieve the dark does not exist any more? And by the way, what is time? And if there is a god, why should he be a creator? And why should not he be a she? And if there is one god, why should not be there more of them? And if there is a god why should he not be created? By definition he is the most perfect of all, so following the logic of creationists, there must be some very powerful (who-knows-what) who created him? And who created that "who-knows-what? What does "who" mean? :eek: I guess who is the opposite of non-who. Is god a who or a non-who? Or he/she is perfectly both the who and the non-who? I guess this who-non-who complex had to create time at first, so that creation could have a beginning. Otherwise it would be eternal. But eternal things cannot have a creator, because a creator implies beginning. So he could not create something perfect. What a pity.
I find it odd that people keep saying there is no evidence for a creator when these are just some of the people who suggest there is evidence (not necessarily proof but evidence) ... Its like going to a beach in CA facing east and saying I see no evidence of an ocean... You have to investigate to have an useful opinion. âWhen I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.â - Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) Tipler, F.J. 1994. The Physics Of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, Preface. -- The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.â - Albert Einstein --- Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say âsupernaturalâ) plan.â - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) Margenau, H and R.A. Varghese, ed. 1992. Cosmos, Bios, and Theos. La Salle, IL, Open Court, p. 83. --- It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.â âIt now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.â -Anthony Flew Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater --- There is a wide measure of agreement which, on the physical side of science approaches almost unanimity, that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail mind as the creator and governor of the realm of matterânot of course our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown, exist as thoughts.â - Sir James Jeans knighted mathematician, physicist and astronomer who helped develop our understanding of the evolution of stars, wrote this in his book The Mysterious Universe (Cambridge, 1931). -- 16O has exactly the right nuclear energy level either to prevent all the carbon from turning into oxygen or to facilitate sufficient production of 16O for life. Fred Hoyle, who discovered these coincidences in 1953, concluded that âa superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology.â - Hoyle, Fred. âThe Universe: Past and Present Reflections,â in Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, 20. (1982), p.16 (for more of these coincidences click here) --- âIf you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one⦠Faced with the enormous sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the fabric of the universe.â - Christian de Duve. âA Guided Tour of the Living Cellâ (Nobel laureate and organic chemist) -- http://www.simpletoremember.com/art...science-quotes/ Nobel prize winners vs. Stu. I choose science.
The Gods don't care about you lowlife humans. Human are lower life forms in the universe. Hawking is diseased, handicapped low life. Hawking is cursed by the Gods. Hawking should shut the fuck up. You piss off the Gods, than you will die.
Hundreds of billions stars... <img src="http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0310/sombrero_hst_big.jpg"> Not hundreds of hundreds, or hundreds of thousands or millions. Hundreds of billions.
The UNIVERSE is not yet up to the NUMBERS of the US National DEBT!!! :eek: THANK YOU CENTRAL BANKERS!!! :eek: TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS............. http://www.infowars.com/national-debt-breaks-debt-clock/
No, when you die there is nothing more, he will be no more, and since he will no longer be he will not find out.