Heaven is a fairy tale, says physicist Hawking

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Debaser82, May 16, 2011.

  1. stu

    stu

    There's nothing logical in God first-cause arguments.

    Also, an astonishingly orderly universe is exactly what the universe shows itself not to be, once you start considering what goes on away from the astonishingly narrow view of a simplistic personal perspective you outlined.
    Neither is a universe coming from nothing to do with matter coming out of nothing as you suggest.

    Stephen Hawking explains how the universe was quite capable of launching its existence on its own. There is no such usefully equivalent account for God, talking zebras or anything supernatural being able to do that.
     
    #21     May 16, 2011
  2. Your problem is that you lump all scientists together and are under the impression that "scientists" all have the same beliefs.

    It's just as wrong as when an atheist posts a quote from some priest in some far away land, and then pretend that all priests feel the same way.
     
    #22     May 16, 2011
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    I don't see anything useful in that, either.
     
    #23     May 16, 2011
  4. But don't unicorns also fly?
     
    #24     May 16, 2011
  5. jem

    jem

    done. sorry.
    I knew it was not original to me... but I was not sure who said it.
     
    #25     May 16, 2011
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Thank you. Without this I die alone, forgotten.

    ; )
     
    #26     May 16, 2011
  7. jem

    jem

    I wrote many scientists... which is an accurate statement of the scientists who have an opinion on this issue.
     
    #27     May 16, 2011
  8. jem

    jem

    So whats you non astonishingly narrow view and what percentage of scientists support you view?

    Why don't you explain hawkings view? Does he acknowledge the fine tunings? does he not address the first cause creation argument... does he not counter it by suggesting string theory supports the "conjuecture" there could be almost infinite universes.

    Basically you just wrote 3 paragraphs which mean nothing.

    Try supporting your arguments with quotes from scientists.
     
    #28     May 16, 2011
  9. Doesn't it seem odd that the "evidence for the existence of god" is completely hidden from the greatest human minds who spend their professional lives exploring how the universe functions, yet it is perfectly clear to uneducated simpletons who have access to internet-linked terminals?

    the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
    Albert Einstein
     
    #29     May 16, 2011
  10. fanews

    fanews

    Hawking is demon okay.

    Hawking thinks he is smarter than the Gods.

    Hawking is nothing but a little boy playing God's playbox.

    Worship the Gods or die Hawking.

    hawking is cursed by the Gods with his disease.

    Hawking has disrespected the will of the Gods, and must die!

    There is no Jesus or Allah to save you evil-doers from eternal hell fire!


    Dam God-foresaken demons!

    Mankind has not discovered or invented anything.

    Nuclear power is what creates the Sun's energy.

    Nuclear power is the God's fire.

     
    #30     May 16, 2011