Health Care Reform...Sound off here, An ET Roundtable.

now, imagine, if you had to pony up a sizable percentage of that from your own wallet


i suppose, common-sense, really is a dead language

 

The point is, why should 15 minutes on the treadmill cost so much? Noones expertise ought to be gouging consumers at that rate because theres noone to say its predatory. The pass the cost along mentality has extended so far that accountability is
too distant to be heard. Common sense, shut up.

 

Because the TRUE agenda of health care reform IS the government takeover......this has always been the eventual longer term incremental plan.

Do you at all understand HOW MUCH control the government can have over a citizenry when they directly control the health care system......just wait and see! :eek:

 

...you're not too bright.




if you actually experienced some direct ill-economic effect from paying for this worthless service, you would likely have refused to do so.


'common-sense'.. is proven to be , more and more each day, dead

 

Common sense, he said with his tail in the air. I did refuse you putz. The second procedure.

 

perhaps we are in agreement...

 

Yes, like every other country with Universal Health Care. If that was indeed the case then there are hardly any countries left in the world without such control mechanism.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/countries/

And you didn't answer why the measures you proposed never got any traction.

 

my apologies, i lumped you in with the people who are blind to the obvious

 

Ah civilization.

What I'm trying to get across is that because I don't have to pay for it and can pass it along to that black hole of accountability that is the entire medical system, from the financial counselor to the insurers the overpricing survives. I'm not the socialist against making a profit but what the market will bear
gets spread out to the point where the buck doesn't stop except in an well cushioned apathetic public. Real competition gets marginalized and the end result is employers and employees
shrugging their shoulders and giving in to it. The rates go up like
the frog in the bath of slowing increasing heated water until he
boils to death. Invoking Eisenhowers warning re: military industrial complex isn't entirely out of relevance here as it could apply to the medical system as it now exists. This is nothing new to everyone.

 

Another thing where increasing government involvement in health care is the policing of fraud. Everyone knows of the billions that could be saved by going after it but the number of feet on the ground to do it needs to increase which means increasing government to some. Maybe charge Colin Powell with the task; he'd find it , cut off its head and then kill it.