Health care reform means more power for the IRS

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Banjo, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. So my premium goes down 20% if we quit giving free care at the emergency room? That gets my vote. Tell ya' what lefty, next Saturday go stand at the door of any big city hospital ER and offer to pay the tab for every busted up gang banger being brought in. You can save them on your dime, not mine. Me...I'd just as soon see em' bleed out and die in the street.
     
    #11     Sep 7, 2009
  2. Do you feel that way about the Mom who recently lost her insurance because she was layed off and her baby with the bad disease doesn't get treated???

    Or how about this one:

    I was pregnant and miscarried and my insurance company made me drive 1500 miles across four states to be "in-network" before they would cover me. My husband lost his job in Illinois and we relocated to Texas. Weeks after packing our entire house and moving it into an apartment I found out I was pregnant. My Illinois insurance wouldn't cover anything because I was no longer "in-network." When I miscarried they wouldn't cover the procedure I needed and the follow up tests unless I was in Illinois. I drove back to Illinois, they covered everything 100%. If only they would've covered the prenatal care to begin with. Insurance says they would've covered any life threatening situation in the ER. They are right, but this wasn't an instance where I was going to die in that moment, it was an instance where somebody else was dying over a period of two weeks and they made me drive across three states before they'd help me."
     
    #12     Sep 7, 2009
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    It is your responsibility, no one else's, to anticipate these kinds of calamities and be prepared for them. You should have begun self-insurance from the moment you were born. Should you have also had the misfortune of being born into a poor family, million$ and decades behind wealthy families, then you should also have anticipated that! Outcome responsibility resides entirely with the individual.
     
    #13     Sep 7, 2009
  4. I don't know of a major city in America without a PUBLIC hospital providing FREE care to the poor, i.e. Cook County in Chicago or Los Angeles County/USC Medical Center . I believe L.A.-USC treats a couple of thousand patients on a pro-bono basis per day.

    When I hear of Leftists complaining "the poor" don't receive hospitalization, I wonder on what planet they're living.

    If the Demosocialists were TRULY concerned about the indignant then they'd just provide increased funding for public health. Like a welfare benefit. Obviously the motives of left wing fucks is way beyond the scope of merely helping the poor. What fun would charity be when you can jealously fuck the productive parts of American society at the same time......



     
    #14     Sep 7, 2009
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Oh my god, I had no idea. Those hospitals should be eliminated immediately. They can only breed dependence.

    You brought up, indirectly, socialism, which reminded me of some other problems plaguing our country that I've been thinking about, namely sick leave and paid vacation. Both pure socialism. How are we ever going to rid our society of these evils? They seem so entrenched, even popular.
     
    #15     Sep 7, 2009

  6. Ah, so thats why insurance companies don't compete on a national market basis and can only offer their policies intrastate.
     
    #16     Sep 7, 2009
  7. No, as a matter of fact I don't feel the same about that. The laid off worker should still have insurance provided and at employer expense for 18 months. COBRA at employer expense if you will. That would at least cause some employers to take pause before slashing their payrolls every time a f'n cloud passes over. And that insurance should be good anywhere in the United States! Surprised? I never said I wasn't for some type of reform, I just don't support break the bank reform while trying to be all things to all people. Eliminate the waste first, then we'll talk about covering the truly needy.
     
    #17     Sep 7, 2009
  8. Insurance companies have tapped into a mother lode of what would have been raises for enrollees on plans whose premiums
    go up in lieu of their raise ...clever.
     
    #18     Sep 8, 2009