Head and Shoulders -> brain seeing what it wants to see?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by HarryHindsight, Oct 26, 2014.

  1. H&s are great only if you understand market behavior.. Most of the charts you post above look like counter trend trades.. I don't think that will work well in the long run.. Good luck
     
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    #11     Oct 26, 2014
  2. Good feedback all, thanks.
    I've been inspired to set Python to the task of identifying possible H&S, and then perhaps manually confirming the patterns (without knowing in advance the outcome).

    I'll try and track down some of those books / articles too. Thanks
     
    #12     Oct 27, 2014
  3. #13     Oct 27, 2014
  4. Yeah I'd say cognitive bias is not a terrible place to start in devising some trading strategy.

    Anyway, back to voodoo TA :)

    Is this an inverse head and shoulders in progress? ticker COG

    cog.png
     
    #14     Oct 27, 2014
  5. oii.png
    MSFT.png
     
    #15     Oct 27, 2014
  6. heypa

    heypa

    We seldom see what we're not looking for and sometimes force compliance when less than ideal occurrences are found.
     
    #16     Oct 28, 2014
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    HarryHindsight

    What trade signal(s) do you plan on using for entries into your H&S Analysis ?
     
    #17     Oct 28, 2014
  8. I think TA really needs to be allied with quantitative evidence. And with python / R, and whatever else, it's certainly possible to gather up hundreds or thousands of qualifying instances of H&S. Only then would I narrow down to the details of when to enter.

    Anyway, I've skimmed through some charts again and my watch list has grown:

    Currently intrigued by:
    COG
    OII
    MSFT

    And as of this evening...
    NB: I hope you'll appreciate since I've only just started investigating H&S I'm being VERY relaxed in terms of what I flag up as possible pattern in progress. I will provide updates on how these play out over the next couple of weeks for anyone who is also interested.

    LLY...
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    MOS...
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    NE...
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    OI...
    oi.png

    SLB...
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    PFG...
    pfg.png

    THC...
    thc.png

    UHS...
    UHS.png

    XOM...
    XOM.png
     
    #18     Oct 28, 2014
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    HarryHindsight,

    You said...

    I think TA really needs to be allied with quantitative evidence. And with python / R, and whatever else

    Have you done such ? If not, why not so that you can move from the analysis phase into the trading phase of those types of H&S price actions.
     
    #19     Oct 28, 2014
  10. From the abstract: "We identify head-and-shoulders patterns using an objective, computer-implemented algorithm based on criteria in published technical analysis manuals" I stopped right there. It is clear they have no idead of what is going on. Lots of people fight whether this or that pattern is a h&s.

    What could it possible worth? Absolutely nothing IMO. Here is what the same author wrote in another paper a few years earlier:

    "Head and shoulders patterns qualify as noise because the associated trading strategy is unprofitable"

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=938807

    Using a h&s to trade is like going to a modern war with a bow arrow.
     
    #20     Oct 28, 2014