Has inflation murdered the millionaire?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Bryn Solomon, May 15, 2007.

  1. Are you a millionaire?

    that is the only question that matters.
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    Still.... after 60 years. Few people can answer yes.
     
    #11     May 15, 2007
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    We can substitute south FL, Chicago, Boston, DC, Seattle, Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix, etc. Come on, there are many pockets of high appreciation. Of course housing prices can go down! But that is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. To make that argument that people are not really rich, their assets are merely inflated, is quite simply a fallacious argument. The bottom line is, wealth in this country has been created through home ownership, real estate speculation, stock market prices at all time highs and retirement funds (IRA's, 401ks) being plush with cash and unemployment at decade lows.
     
    #12     May 15, 2007
  3. In reality most people cash out equity with a loan not by selling up. This is money mostly created by the lending bank out of thin air.

    The house was probably bought with an mortgage in the first place as well, again money most created out of thin air.

    Its a great big Ponzi scheme, as long as people can keep paying the interest on all this new credit it wont collapse.
     
    #13     May 15, 2007
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    You sound like someone who missed the boat. If real estate speculation is a ponzi scheme then I guess so is the stock market.

    "Sorry, go sell crazy somewhere else, we are all stocked up here."

    Jack Nicholson
     
    #14     May 15, 2007
  5. Its all about monetizing exisiting debt with even more debt. Our response to the nasdaq bubble was to double all existing mortgage debt in only a couple of years. Now its on to the corporate sector. We have to find new ways of producing debt to keep going.
     
    #15     May 15, 2007
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Actually that is not what it is. I'll give you a hint. C.......D.......O.....'s
     
    #16     May 15, 2007
  7. Elaborate please.
     
    #17     May 15, 2007
  8. You can't even figure on retiring on a million anymore. My mom and dad saved all their lives to retire in 1996 with $1 million. How many million do I need? I bet I need $3 million.

    If that's not proof of inflation, I don't know what is.
     
    #18     May 15, 2007
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Collateral debt obligations (cdo's). What has completely changed our society today in the finance world is our ability to take debt off the hands of the banks into the hands of hedge funds and those that are seeking risk. It has opened up an arbitrage market we have never seen before. Our banking system has advanced to the point where we can allow risk takers to absorb risk and allow money to flow more freely and efficiently.

    In other words, like I said earlier, you allow capital to flow towards it's highest return, in the most stable environment with the greatest amount of purchasing power. It's actually revolutionary. CDO's are the greatest financial invention in the last century.

    There are some good 700 page books I could recommend to you on CDO's if you like.
     
    #19     May 15, 2007