Has Buffet Lost His Touch?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Brandonf, May 28, 2005.

  1. fader

    fader

    i've just read this on Niederhoffer's site:

    Thank goodness the Sage had Charlie to restrain him from speculating so much more against the dollar than the $22 billion he admitted to being short at Berkshire's last annual meeting. When will the first brave soul write about this terrible investment that since the end of the year may have created a greater loss in magnitude than all the other investments he has made up to that time? And how does he subtly engulf smart people like his surrogate son at the computer software company and get him to talk at Davos about dollar weakness and how the Chinese system is so much superior to ours because they put the really smart people in government positions there, without being too overt or pushy about it? Also, what will happen to the market when word gets out that the possibility or pressure to exit the position might at some time arise?




    hmm.. "this terrible investment that since the end of the year may have created a greater loss in magnitude than all the other investments he has made up to that time" ??
     
    #31     Jun 11, 2005
  2. what does warren buffet know about turkey? i can't understand why he would want to make this investment!
     
    #32     Jun 11, 2005
  3. Banjo

    Banjo

    If and when Turkey is admited into the EU it becomes a sort of financial demilitarized zone into the Muslim world, a sort of modern version of the ancient spice road.
     
    #33     Jun 11, 2005

  4. still it is along way from omaha it is more like a soros investment then a buffet type of investment.
     
    #34     Jun 11, 2005

  5. niederhoffer does not seem to be a fan of buffet, neither does taleb.
     
    #35     Jun 11, 2005
  6. Banjo

    Banjo

    Don't know when or how the bad blood between these two started. I was reading some of Mungers stuff once and he threw barbs at VN, during a speech @ U C Santa Barbara I think. Probably the polarity in styles has something to do with it. I read VN's site for a couple mos. and there is a subtle arrogance there imo along with a lot of meaningless giberish. They both have more money than I do and are both working hard to that end. Buffet and Munger are very logical and pragmatic, there is a risk profile to every move as nobody is a fortune teller. If I were to extend my family's financial well being through outside investors into the next half century it would be with Berk Hath and not a cowboy like VN.
    Buffet simply employs a longer term horizon which is diametrically opposed to our cultural rythm. The thing is that the long term gets here, like it or not.
     
    #36     Jun 11, 2005
  7. Banjo

    Banjo

    Agree with that, I think the world is collapsing faster than some want to recognize and it may not be as far from Omaha as it once was.
     
    #37     Jun 11, 2005
  8. jem

    jem

    It seems to me a great risk reward bet.

    It would be like me betting a few hundred bucks that Turkey becomes the new trade center.

    Only he has the cache to make it happen.

    Sort of like that Kostner movie. If you build it they will come.

    Besides he has to support his Euro bet. He is doing a big favor for Europe with this move. More than any Foreign affairs office could ever do.

    If I were Turkey I would give him red carpet treatment. It is the coolest international move I have ever seen and I am no fan of Buffet finding him to be a self serving jerk.

    For that opininion I reference his socialist political statements in the U.S. press. And his insulting remarks about short term traders. (Which I found to be incredibly hypocritical. Considering he is a trader too and invests in fast food and disposable razors.)
     
    #38     Jun 11, 2005
  9. Banjo

    Banjo

    Yep, it is a very smooth bet imo, in his shoes I would make it.
     
    #39     Jun 11, 2005
  10. mlipsky

    mlipsky

    i laugh every time I see someone quote Jim Rodgers -- see above. He made a speech in '96 in which he said the US markets (menaing the financial industry, not investments) would be struggling for their survival w/in a few yrs and that countries all over the world were eating our lunch. It was absurd at the time and he couldn't have been proven more wrong.
     
    #40     Jun 13, 2005