Has anyone tried this option strategy?...

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Breakout, Jun 17, 2003.

  1. I just learned about an interesting strategy and was wondering
    if any of you guys do this. Here's how it works...

    Say, you're watching ABC stock, and it's trading around $30.
    And you're interested in buying if it pulls back to $25.

    So, instead of placing an order to buy at $25, you sell $25 puts.
    If the stock doesn't pullback to $25, you make money on the puts.

    If it does pullback to under $25, then the buyers of the options
    will exercise their put, and you will be long the stock at $25
    like you wanted to be anyway. Plus, your purchase price is
    reduced by the premium you received when you sold the options.

    Sounded pretty good to me, but I wouldn't mind hearing from
    someone who's tried this.
  2. This method is used everyday.

    Wade Cook, aka Piece of shit, advocated this method ... Thus take it with a grain of salt

    Good strategy if AND only if volatility is high

    One caveat: Payoff is pretty stable, unless you use leverage. Money is also tied up due to nakedness...
  3. syd697


    You've just described the strategy of "naked put selling". This is a strategy that can be done at different risk levels. What you're doing is selling "out-of-the-money" puts in hopes of buying a desirable stock at a lower price. So while you wait for the stock to possibly trade lower to the strike price, you get to keep the premium.

    Good luck.
  4. problem is -- if the stock goes to $10 -- you still have to buy it at $25 -- so you are immediately down $15 - premium that you took in.
  5. Isn't there some sort of stop loss strategy I can use? Let's just
    say I got $2 for the put. So, if the stock drops to $23, then I'm
    breakeven. If it drops under $23, I can buy the puts back for a
    small loss, right?
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    And what if the day you get filled they halt the stock and announce accounting fraud, poor earnings, etc etc.
  7. omcate


    What happens if the stock gap down 50% at open ?

    One of my friends bought a hot technology stock in ealry 2000. One morning when he woke up, the stock was down 50%. He immediately got an margin call.

    :( :( :(
    :confused: :confused: :confused:
  8. Yea, that reminds me of something I read about Mark Cook. Seems he sold a bunch of calls, then the stock halted trading
    for awhile. When it started to trade again he was down
  9. "If it drops under $23, I can buy the puts back for a
    small loss, right? "
    yes you could buy the puts back at any time. selling naked puts has the same or slightly less risk (because of the premium recieved ) as being long the stock as long as you dont sell any more than you have cash available to buy the stock at the strike price.
  10. Sell a strike $25 put
    Buy a strike $20 put

    You're out $5 - (profit from selling $25 - cost for buying $20)
    #10     Jun 17, 2003