Quite simply because the argument is disingenuous. It's like the "do you condemn Hamas?" question, or the "having a cease fire now is being anti-Israel", or "the silence on sexual violence from pro-Palestinians is deafening". Don't tell me you actually believe the "we won't stop until terrorism is defeated" from Bush et.al? IOW: it's cover for "shut up about Israel's heavy hand on Gaza".
Actually a two stock market solution might not work either if terrorists like Hamas sell Israeli stocks short, right before a planned attack:
IDF says soldiers encountered Hamas terror cell inside school https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/december-8-israel-hamas-war Israeli soldiers encountered a Hamas terror cell within a school in the Gaza Strip before eliminating them, the Israel Defense Forces said Friday. The Hamas fighters attempted to draw IDF forces from a counter-terrorism unit with the 74th Battalion into an ambush before a firefight erupted, the IDF said. The soldiers searched the school in the Shuja'iyya area of Gaza City and found a tunnel shaft inside a classroom, the IDF said. “This is another example of Hamas’s cynical abuse of schools, they have turned places that should be safe-havens for children into hideouts for terrorists,” the IDF said. A squad from the Lotar counter-terrorism unit was operating in Gaza for the first time as part of the 188th Brigade, authorities said. The soldiers in the squad specialize in breaching and demolitions, as well as snipers. Video footage released by the IDF show soldiers firing multiple rounds at a wall where returning gunfire appears to be coming from during close-quarters combat operations. There were no reports of injuries to the Israeli soldiers. (Article has video)
The government of Hamas can be eliminated, but the idea itself won’t be. The real problem is the religion itself. In my opinion, despite all the kumbaya we should respect all cultures/religion rhetoric, the true believers of Islam are the jihadists. They are simply following the text in the Quran. That’s not to say most Muslims are a problem. They aren’t, because most half-ass their religion. The Quran/religion itself is the problem and because of that people will inevitably believe this way and act on it. Just look at how backwards all the countries in the Middle East actually are. It’s no different than the true Q believers carrying out things like January 6th.
The propaganda on both sides of this is quite amusing. You keep hearing rhetoric like “right to exist”. Morally speaking, how does any country have a right to exist? It’s always been about who has the power/resources to set the rules. What’s “fair” is completely arbitrary.
I think it is straight forward.....no matter what happened or will happaned, Hamas cannot continue to be in charge. It is not mutually exclusive to condemn Israel's heavy handed approach and say Hamas has to go. Hamas has to go no matter what happened since Oct 7th or even before. Speaking out against Hamas is not racist or anti-Palestinian. But on Oct 7th it got real quiet that Hamas has to go or any support from the world that Hamas has to go. Saying Hamas has to go was shouted down with "You support Israel killing children" really? Seems people were so upset over Israel's apartheid they were willing to accept Hamas. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Anti-semitism took a huge spike yet anti-Hamas words disappeared because of Israel. Remember those pics from yesterday about the Palestinians in the road handcuffed sitting in their underwear surrounded by Israeli soldiers. Saw numerous posts that said IDf forces shot them in the head in front of their families in public followed by huge outrage. As of right now, no corroboration or follow up stories but the posts are going viral. Same with the IDF claiming babies were burned and mutilated later proven false. So people are simply posting what fits their narrative and the truth is irrelevant. A Congressmans says Hamas has to go and your response is, he takes money from Pro-Israel Pacs.... so.....that means Hamas has to go is now pro genocide and should not be said? As I said...if Israel never retaliated with one bullet, Hamas still has to go and should not be allowed to be in power. It is amazing to me how many pearls got clutched over Israel's military action (which I agree was burning down the forest to kill a few trees) but suddenly Hamas is untouchable and terrorists walking into homes and shooting families suddenly goes away. Lots of funny posts how the hostages were well treated...like there were good slaveowners in the 1800s in the U.S. The entire world is marching for the Palestinians but not one of those countries is willing to do anything to help the Palestinians or condemn Hamas.....so it is all just social media talk. The world gives two shits about IDf forces bombing houses and killing civilians outside of Insta posts...
bro, it's Iraq "changing objectives" all over again, "hamas has to go" is just the latest talking point. I know it may sound reasonable, after all, who would object to such verbatim phrase? But it's just coded language like "it's ok to be white" or "blue lives matter". It may sound kooky I know, but when you're seeing it all over the place in tandem by the talking heads, you know what's up. Do pray tell how do you stop the next JAMAS, MAMAS, or TOMAS from being the next "it" terrorist cell when they've killed 15k? You think those people are now cool with Israel? Now let me throw it back at you, why is the pro-Israel crowd so against a cease fire? Why does stopping the bombardment of civilians make one pro-Hamas? Do you think there hasn't been a spike in Islamophobia?
There is certainly a spike in Antisemitism equivalent to and now worse than islamaphobia right now because the true victims are the Palestinians... It is amazing at how many "friends" on social media have dug up the "Jews control the media and the government and support for Israel..." it is a lot scarier being an identifiable Jew on college campuses right now than simply being Middle Eastern (not at a rally or protest). We live in a stupid country where we are told dont say all Palestinians are terrorists while apparently Jews are definitely Israeli and support them and are baby killers by proxy amirite.. Forget the fact that NBC, CBS, FOX etc. are all owned by multinational corporations or that the support for Israel has always been this purely political belief that they are our only democratic ally in the Middle East and so U.S. tends to turn a blind eye as long as we have that foothold. It is not shocking that the strongest support for Israel comes from the GOP.
Another friend just posted how sad it is that Israel controls the U.S. government and that there are laws banning you from speaking out against Israel.... We are truly the dumbest nation on earth with the greatest access to information...
I said at the start of the retaliation that Israel's one of the greatest drivers of antisemitism around the world. Yes, I'm saddened by all the misguided libs falling for the racist tropes as they defend fellow Muslim peers. Let's not turn a blind eye to the influence Israel has on our political, media, and even economic system. How is this shit helping against the "jews control the government and speech" case? Revisit your own words; how are these state laws not the government forcing censorship and banning speech from people?: I brought up the lobbying case not because Israel is the only country that does it, but to highlight the curious case of those not taking money from AIPAC et.al. being the only ones to vote against the first resolution in the post I quote above. There was a vote today or maybe yesterday on lethal aid to Israel. Which members on the receiving end of AIPAC do you think were the only ones wanting an amendment to make such aid conditional on Israel abiding by US rules and international norms of use on civilians? It's not just your buddy on FB saying it, prominent Jewish scholars are saying it; timestamped (@themickey here's another Jewish of renown speaking for Gaza). His views on Ukraine are shit tho: