shabab stands for what ? i assume it is terrorist. well, killing civilians or attacking civilian facilities is not a legitimate tactic for no one.
please be more accurate, tell me which part of koran and which verse. i want to check by myself in a library. as i checked already the dubious Sharon statement and knew too it was probably forged.
It's always OK to resist an unjust order. There are parents and teachers who abuse their role. There are mature teenagers too. Nevertheless, it's a lot easier to tell an adult to back off - calmly, firmly, and convincingly - when you yourself have matured into an adult. Not trying to be patriarchal at all here with this teenager analogy. I'm actually trying to be understanding of the rage coming from the Muslim world.
The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM In this article I shall describe the Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Prophet Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hedious crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth. To prove my point I have taken verses from the Koran and quotes from the Hadiths. VIRGINS (HOURIS) Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys. The relevant verses from the Koran are: Koran 78:31 As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup. Koran 37:40-48 ...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches. Koran 44:51-55 ...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins) Koran 52:17-20 ...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them... Koran 55:56-57 In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?" Koran 55:57-58 Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?" Koran 56:7-40 ...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. " Koran 55:70-77 "In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before.. In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness. Quote from Hadiths Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34 Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them." YOUNG BOYS Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls. The relevant verses from the Koran are: Koran 52:24 Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded. Koran 56:17 Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness. Koran 76:19 And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls. As mentioned in my previous article, famous poets in Arabia glorified homosexuality. As an example I am including a poem in 'Perfumed Garden' by Abu Nuwas: O the joy of sodomy! So now be sodomites, you Arabs. Turn not away from it-- therein is wondrous pleasure. Take some coy lad with kiss-curls twisting on his temple and ride as he stands like some gazelle standing to her mate. A lad whom all can see girt with sword and belt not like your whore who has to go veiled. Make for smooth-faced boys and do your very best to mount them, for women are the mounts of the devils Need I say anything more after this colorful rendition by Abu Nuwas ?
========== [1]Defending Israel [2]Weapons of Mass destruction, which were used against his own people for sure, used against Iran. [3]Winning the war on terror. Excellant reasons for taking out all [all] Israels enemies or Iraq war. Only a head in the sand media still lamely attempts to justify thier anti-war position by nitpicking WMD. All three reasons were publickly announced before Iraq war in the war on terror .
should this thread be removed from trading and placed in chit chat ? ( yes we are not talking small talk here but it seems many posts are not trrading related )
Everyone interested in this discussion should take a few minutes to read Dr Mahathir's speech from the Islamic Summit Conference of October 2003. It is a simply amazing speech which was terribly reported in the West, where for the most part it was condemned for being anti-Semitic. While he certainly labels the Jews as the enemy, he also lauds them as "a people who think" and encourages Muslims to do likewise. He tells Muslims to follow the example of the early Muslims who studied "the works of the Greeks and other scholars", not just the Koran. He takes Muslims to task for doing nothing more productive than getting angry. "Angry people cannot think properly. And so we find some of our people reacting irrationally. They launch their own attacks, killing just about anybody including fellow Muslims to vent their anger and frustration." He addresses the feeling of hopelessness among Muslims, and tells Muslims to put their house in order. He explains that not all non-Muslims are enemies and that there is sympathy to the Palestinian cause, even among the Jews. He condemns suicide bombers. "We must not antagonise everyone. We must win their hearts and minds. We must win them to our side not by begging for help from them but by the honourable way that we struggle to help ourselves." Basically, he tells the Islamic world to Grow Up! A remarkable speech. Read it. (Later, Dr Mahathir was reportedly upset at the reaction his speech received. "In my speech I condemned all violence, even the suicide bombings and I told the Muslims it's about time we stopped all these things and paused to think and do something that is much more productive," he said. "That was the whole tone of my speech, but they picked up one sentence where I said that the Jews control the world.")