Haircut of Canadian treasury bills used as collateral

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by M.W., Jun 16, 2022.

  1. I'm not sure what exactly your first question is - the last few pages in this thread were about T-bills.

    If you read the thread, you will notice that I asked the exact same question about allowable collateral (other than cash) for EUR denominated futures. Let us know if you have an answer; you can just try it out, it will cost you a few Euros. I didn't get around trying it yet.

    I noticed that in some of my accounts, the T-bills (or whatever other mechanism) have the effect that the futures (here: ICE futures) on exchanges that don't have FOPs, don't affect the margin debt that interest is charged; while in other accounts the maintenance margin of the ICE futures is deducted from the interest-bearing cash balance. I find it really hard to reverse-engineer the rules, and scary that IB is unable to state and to communicate their own rules.

    I have a feeling that ICE futures reduce interest-bearing cash when total USD cash is positive, but don't make debit interest bearing negative cash balances more negative when the total USD cash is already negative. Why that so is, is beyond me - seems inconsistent. Both scenarios are under the assumption that there is enough other futures collateral (CME FOPs) for the maintenance margin of both the CME and the ICE futures in the account, of course.
    I discovered a number of other bugs in IB's interest rate calcs; so I wouldn't be surprised if their calcs are unintendedly inconsistent. IB seems to be really struggling with some aspects of their systems. It's by far the best platform available for my needs though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2023
    #101     Apr 15, 2023
  2. def

    def Sponsor

    re cash - yes, idle cash earns interest if above the thresholds and of course varies by currency (it also varies on some entities where we are prohibited to provide direct interest but do our best to replicate the returns when possible. Correct on T-bills/bonds, I believe you can use 95% of the value as collateral on tbills, but would need to check on german bonds which are probably about the same.
     
    #102     Apr 18, 2023
  3. I would really appreciate if you can check on German government bonds for futures collateral, def. Thanks in advance!
     
    #103     Apr 19, 2023
  4. def

    def Sponsor

    sure, will check with europe this PM
     
    #104     Apr 19, 2023
  5. def

    def Sponsor

    Currently we aren't offering offset on German Gov't bonds. It however, it is up for review. I'll let you know when I hear more (hopefully next week)
     
    #105     Apr 19, 2023
  6. Hi def, any news on EUR futures margin offset with government bonds (or other instruments)? Just asking because you mentioned "hopefully next week". Would be nice to hear progress in this area. Thanks!
     
    #106     May 24, 2023
  7. def

    def Sponsor

    I've been off the radar for a while and apologies for the lack of a reply. This was supposed to be put in place, but other priorities took precedence. I have now confirmed it will get a priority and implemented shortly (shouldn't be complicated but there were some external factors that kept this from being automated and a resolution has been discussed and is being worked on).
     
    #107     Jun 7, 2023
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  8. Thanks for the update, def!
     
    #108     Jun 9, 2023
  9. Mais78

    Mais78

    Thanks @tradegoodstocks this discussion is extremely valuable. I have a huge cash drag from futures margin and I wish I had known before about alternative margin collateral. BTW which cash sweep option do you use? Sweep to securities will earn more interests? Thanks

    @def with EUR being implemented, which other currencies/futures offer such an opportunity? I trade futures in USD, EUR, AUD, CAD and JPY
    Thanks!
     
    #109     Jun 20, 2023
  10. M.W.

    M.W.

    Def, is there any hope to be able to buy Canadian government bonds/bills via IB?

     
    #110     Jun 20, 2023