Now you are just embarrassing yourself. You quoted one scientist that claims the universe APPEARS finely tuned, and now you are asking for quotes from scientists who believe the opposite? Get a grip. By the way, it's not my belief system, it's the conclusion I've arrived at after looking at the facts. Not something you're familiary with, I'm sure.
Your brain is not logical. I have not said appearance of design equals design. I quote science and scientists like Bernard Carr and you get all emotional. Some top scientists state the our universe looks designed. Dawkins even says it... One has said that if there is no multiverse than our universe looks spectacualry designed. Thats what you are arguing against. if you wish to say you have hope that physics will explain that appearance in the future. I say fine, it just may. I love science and it does not interfere with my faith, in fact I embrace science. My worldview would only be shaken in the event science proves there is no Creator. As of now... I think that one is not in jeopardy in my lifetime. So bring on the discoveries. Finally let me note that if you do a quick check on the internet surveys find that about 33 to 40% of scientists believe in God - according to recent studies. So being an atheist does not make you more "scientific". If fact I would bet that within the non believers category... most intelligent people would be agnostic.
To what lengths will the atheist go trying to convince people that there is no God? Puddle logic? And yet you'll laugh at the true believer with their image of Jesus on a piece of toast. What tragic irony. You deserve each other.
A quick thought about your "internet surveys (very reliable, I'm sure) - 60% to 77% then do not believe in god. Last I checked 60% to 77% is a larger number than 33% to 40%. I wonder why most scientists do not believe?
A talking puddle would fit in perfectly with the other stories told in that fairy tale you call a bible. A talking snake, however, now THAT is something I can believe in!
It looks like you claimed to be a scientist... do you really have a degree in a hard science? Its odd because you seem to be so emotionally invested in this subject that you are now pointing out that 60 is larger than 40.
I am not a scientist, nor have I ever claimed to be. I'm also not emotional - emotions are for women. Please don't assume things about me. I simply enjoy a heated debate sometimes. Judging from your previous post, where you attempted to argue that since 33% of scientists (judging by the highly credible "internet surveys") believe in god, clearly you needed to be informed that 60 is larger than 40.
I pointed out that being an atheist does not make you more "scientific". But I am not sure what you are saying.. Just to understand how your "scientific" (those are your words) brain works. Are you representing that because more scientists are non believers that makes you more scientific? Note -- I am not sure if you ever competed at anything meaningful, but when you do you are likely to experience emotions. The key to performing well in those situations is not to act like you are some sort of zen master with zero emotions. The key is to accept the fact you have emotions and still be able to execute your routines which allow you to make your shot or execute your trade. emotions are not just for women we all have them we just have to be able to think and execute through them.