ha ha ha Obama's lead falls a staggering 2 points

Discussion in 'Politics' started by stock_trad3r, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. Pabst, it still amazes me that this is ALL that the Republican Party has to offer these days . . . in the way of a Presidential candidate.

    Unbelievable.
     
    #31     Oct 17, 2008
  2. America still wants Big Federal solutions. Interventionist military, bailouts, massive entitlements for Federal employees and seniors, maybe even universal healthcare. Market liquidity has different ideas. New capital will build alternative energy in China not lend at low yields to the U.S. Treasury or BOJ.

    The governments in Japan, Europe the U.S. are dead. My weekend reading will be learning the contributing factors to Argentina's collapse. I need to be versed in some distinctly non-U.S. fractals. We're in a new ballgame.

    Wags, I make no bones about my partisanship-I'm a states rightest-the bulk of needed services are local-hence I'm a virtual secessionist. I believe the de facto destruction of the Federal fiscal engine as we now know it is our only answer.
     
    #32     Oct 17, 2008
  3. TT1

    TT1

    Visual Guide: The Balance Of Power Between Congress and The Presidency
    1945-2008
    Which party controls Congress? Which, the White House? The answer reveals the "balance of power" in the two branches of government that have elected officials (Congress and the White House).

    Americans seem to prefer that the checks-and-balances envisioned by the founders be facilitated by having different parties control Congress and the White House.

    Contrary to popular belief, most of the time (in modern political history) Congress and the President are at odds; that is, most of the time the same political party does not control the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives. Only 10 times (20 years) since 1945 have both branches of Congress and the Presidency been controlled by the same party.

    However, most of the time, Congress has been controlled by the same party. The "odd man out" has literally been the President. Since 1945, the House and Senate have been controlled by different parties only five times (10 years). And there have been only two complete turn-overs of Congress since 1945: one in 1949 and the other in 2007.

    Also see A Guide To Sessions of Congress : Congressional Calendars, 1971-2008

    Updated 13 November 2006




    Year Congress President Senate (100) House (435)
    2007 110th R D - 51** D - 233
    2005 109th R R - 55 R - 232
    2003 108th R R - 51 R - 229
    2001 107th R D* R - 221
    1999 106th D R - 55 R - 223
    1997 105th D R - 55 R - 228
    1995 104th D R - 52 R - 230
    1993 103rd D D - 57 D - 258
    1991 102nd R D - 56 D - 267
    1989 101st R D - 55 D - 260
    1987 100th R D - 55 D - 258
    1985 99th R R - 53 D - 253
    1983 98th R R - 54 D - 269
    1981 97th R R - 53 D - 242
    1979 96th D D - 58 D - 277
    1977 95th D D - 61 D - 292
    1975 94th R D - 60 D -291
    1973 93rd R D - 56 D - 242
    1971 92nd R D - 54 D - 255
    1969 91st R D - 57 D - 243
    1967 90th D D - 64 D - 247
    1965 89th D D - 68 D - 295
    1963 88th D D - 66 D - 259
    1961 87th D D - 64 D - 263
    1959 86th R D - 65 D -283
    1957 85th R D - 49 D - 232
    1955 84th R D - 48 D - 232
    1953 83rd R R - 48 D - 221
    1951 82nd D D - 49 D - 235
    1949 81st D D - 54 D - 263
    1947 80th D R - 51 R - 246
    1945 79th D D - 57 D - 242


    An all Democratic or Republican controlled Presidency and Congress is disasterous for the American people, history has proved it time again.
    :eek:
     
    #33     Oct 17, 2008
  4. You conveniently started after FDR. FDR was elected along with an overwhelming Democratic majority in the congress. That was what was needed to pull the country out of the Great Depression. There is no doubt in many people's mind that today we're staring at an economic disaster parallel to 1929. So it only makes sense for the people to vote in a president along with a congress controlled by the same party, and also with an overwhelming majority.

    You can blame Bush for it.
     
    #34     Oct 17, 2008
  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    Roosevelt and his policies extended the depression. The are no economic numbers untill the war 1942 that show an end to the depression
     
    #35     Oct 17, 2008
  6. Liar.

    GDP during FDR's first term was close to 10% per year. Look it up:
    http://bea.gov/national/index.htm#gdp
     
    #36     Oct 17, 2008
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    The U.S. had not returned to 1929's GNP for over a decade and still had an unemployment rate of about 15% in 1940 — down from 25% in 1933.

    I believe this is a more accurate measure.

    Don't call people liars. Does it make you feel good
     
    #37     Oct 17, 2008
  8. If you didn't lie because you didn't think growth rate was a reasonable measure of recovery, then you were just being dishonest. If the economy crashes by 70% no policy can make it return to its pre-crash level immediately. A growth rate above 10% is a decent recovery rate. Unemployment also recovers along with the economy.

    There was absolutely no possibility that continuing Hoover's "free market" policy would have made the recovery faster. In fact, Hoover's policy was what made the crash so much worse.
     
    #38     Oct 17, 2008
  9. No....Ron Paul (republican) is still the BEST choice!
     
    #39     Oct 18, 2008
  10. Mercor

    Mercor

    Hoover was hardly "free market". Had he been free market their is a good chance the economy would have taking less then 10 years to come back.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
    ________________
    After his successful election in November 1928, Hoover entered office with a plan for reform of the nation's regulatory system. A dedicated Progressive and Reformer, Hoover saw the presidency as a vehicle for improving the conditions of all Americans by regulation and by encouraging volunteerism. Long before he entered politics he denounced laissez-faire thinking. As Commerce Secretary he had taken an active pro-regulation stance. As President he helped push tariff and farm support bills through Congress.

    Hoover agreed to one of the largest tax increases in American history. The Revenue Act of 1932 raised income tax on the highest incomes from 25% to 63%. The estate tax was doubled and corporate taxes were raised by almost 15%.
    -------------------------------------------------
     
    #40     Oct 18, 2008