H1N1 Black Swan? CDC Says 40% in US May Contract H1N1; Hundreds of Thousands May Die

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ByLoSellHi, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. We already know the sheeple will panic, giving government yet another opportunity to do what they want without the oversight of vigilant Americans. So why not panic the people? It's called job security. They must now legitimize their ever-more-expensive existence.

    More people die from influenza than from this bug.

    "Oh, but this one goes after healthy people!!!"

    Same answer.
     
    #41     Jul 30, 2009
  2. I hope the H1N1 is nothing major but some people are so put off by the media's coverage—and it's hard to blame them—they're convinced it's just more misinformation and there's absolutely nothing to worry about. I don't see it that way. This thing is just a mutation away from killing 1% of the infected population in developed countries and crushing 3rd world countries.

    Worst case scenario, let's say after a mutation 1/3 of the U.S. population gets infected and 1% of the infected dies. That's 1+ million dead over one or two flu seasons. Chances are it won't play out so severe, but it's not really something to scoff at if you ask me.
     
    #42     Jul 30, 2009
  3. Illum

    Illum

    India would be real tragedy if it became widespread even in it's current state. They appear from this article tonight to be overwhelmed. Not be the cases so far, but by the implications of major spreading and no way to deal with it on a mass scale.

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/the-most-dangerous-yet/365439/
     
    #43     Jul 30, 2009
  4. I can't blame people for think the media is hyping this, especially after the Y2K fiasco.

    What worries me, though, is that if early indications are accurate (from Mexico), this already has an affinity for striking down the young and healthy with a vengeance.

    They've already demonstrated that those with healthy immune systems essentially drown in response to it, as their lungs fill with fluid as a byproduct of their immune system kicking into hyperdrive.

    So, yes, if it mutates and and acquires some of the traits of the seasonal influenza, it could be an issue.
     
    #44     Jul 30, 2009
  5. S2007S

    S2007S

    Haha Y2 what? What a damn media hype that was, I was anticipating something on a tiny scale but nothing even happened. As for the H1N1 it seemed to be significant in the beginning but now has been somewhat forgotten by most of the public. I really don't hear it in the media or people I talk to as much as I did months ago, everyone has gotten very comfortable over this.



     
    #45     Jul 31, 2009
  6. achilles28

    achilles28

    Food for thought:

    The vaccine requires 2 shots. Sometimes 3 (for kids).
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=axzjhgp27HJ8


    Multi-dose vials of the shot will contain thimerosal (a mercury-based preservative).
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...sletter&wpisrc=newsletter&sid=ST2009072903827


    Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that aggressively kills brain cells.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqVDMr9ivo


    Vaccine Makers and Government Officials have total immunity
    http://www.clickondetroit.com/health/20088640/detail.html


    In Europe, the vaccine is slated for approval within one week of physical delivery. No short or long-term clinical trials will be done.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6694046.ece


    America plans a 3-month vaccination trial of perhaps 1,000 volunteers, before it rolls out 600 Million doses. No medium or long-term trials will be done.
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1726759/swine_flu_vaccinations_to_be_expedited_in_europe/


    1 American died from 1976 Swine Flu.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak


    500 Americans contracted Guillain-Barré syndrome - a severe paralytic condition - after taking the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccination. 25 of those afflicted with GBS from the vaccination - but not infected with actual swine flu - died.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak


    In 3 months, 377 Americans have died from Swine Flu.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic#cite_note-3


    In that same 3 month period, 9,000 Americans died from regular Flu (36,000 deaths annually).
    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/289/2/179
     
    #46     Jul 31, 2009
  7. Exactly! This is why I will NOT be taking any vaccine. Whatever they come up with will be such a rush job we will have no clue whats in it or if it will do any good at all....or if it will be worse than the disease itself.

    WHO: You guys need to come up with a vaccine STAT and it had better kill the damn virus on the first try.

    Dr's and Chemists: OK we got something ready. We just threw some stuff together but we think it will work.

    WHO: OK great whats in it?

    Dr's and Chemists: Well its 2% ethanol, 5% isopropyl alcohol, and 10% Lysol in a propylene glycol solution. It ought to kill damn near any virus. We can call it the super vaccine.

    WHO: Great! Make it so.
     
    #47     Jul 31, 2009
  8. achilles28

    achilles28

    Yep :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
    #48     Jul 31, 2009
  9. A close relative is being treated for a non contagious lung disease so I asked their doctor, an infectious disease specialist. He said he wanted to see and analyze the clinical trials before recommending that she get the vaccine because, as mentioned, in the 70's the vaccine killed more than the virus.
     
    #49     Jul 31, 2009
  10. MattF

    MattF

    least he's on the right page.

    No vaccine for me either. Sadly, my mother is a 30+-year RN so when this shit begins to break more, I'll get to hear about it again and again :(

    I wonder if the "flu shot" they do annually this coming year will have a mixture bit or be more for swine flu as well...:confused:
     
    #50     Jul 31, 2009