Gunman's neighbor arrested in NY ambush.

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    "New York (CNN) -- The gunman who ambushed and killed two unsuspecting firefighters as they battled a blaze in upstate New York couldn't buy his weapons legally so he allegedly got his neighbor's daughter to purchase them for him, said U.S. Attorney William Hochul.
    Dawn Nguyen of Rochester, New York, faces charges over allegedly lying when she purchased an AR-15 rifle -- a .223-caliber weapon -- and 12-gauge shotgun that the gunman had with him during the attack.
    Authorities say she told the gun dealer that she planned to be the owner of the weapons, but had instead purchased them on June 7, 2010,for gunman William Spengler.
    "It is absolutely against federal law to lie relating to the acquisition of firearms," said Hochul, who said Spengler indicated in a suicide note that he had gotten the weapons from the neighbor.
    Dispatcher told firefighter: 'Brother, hang tight'
    Nguyen, 24, was "turned ... over to ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) agents to be processed at the federal level, and arraigned by a federal magistrate this afternoon," according to state police Investigator James Newell.
    Firefighters honor fallen comrades
    Spengler, 62 -- who had been convicted of killing his grandmother decades ago -- used the same type of weapon employed in the recent assault on Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 26 people dead, including 20 children. As a convicted felon, Spengler was not allowed to legally possess weapons.
    Autopsy shows suspect died of self-inflicted wound
    "He was equipped to go to war," Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said. The gunman was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound hours later.
    In his possession were three firearms, including two .223-caliber Bushmaster rifles and a Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun. While Nguyen's charges involve two weapons, authorities indicated the possibility of additional charges regarding the third weapon.
    Nguyen's attorney was not immediately available for comment. If convicted, she could face up to 10 years in jail and $250,000 fine."

    One more reason why it takes exactly one second to go from "law abiding citizen" to felon. The woman purchased the guns legally and sold them to a felon.
  2. pspr


    OMG, we had better pass stonger laws and make doing such a thing subject to the death penalty. To hell with gun education and security. NOT.
  3. hughb


    Wait a minute - she purchased the guns legally and then turned them over? Or she sold them to him? When this story first broke a few hours ago, there was no reason given for the arrest, the press did not even know what the connection was between this woman and the shooter. It doesn't sound like they know very much more right now.
  4. hughb


    If she's smart, she will not make a statement to anybody. She had better keep her mouth shut and get a lawyer.
  5. Just more proof the current controls are insufficient and only a total banning of assault weapons is required.
  6. That simple thought totally escaped pspr. If we listen to pspr we should always trust "law abiding citizens" because they can do no wrong right? If AR-15 was not available for sale to anyone in this country, this idiot would not have had it. Because there is absolutely nothing to stop straw purchases and background checks are not even required in private sales, any criminal can have any weapon available to any "law abiding citizen".
  7. hughb


    This AP article says the state charge against her is filing a falsified business report. It says there is also a federal charge to be announced later.

    You guys who have purchased guns - what is this report they are talking about? It could be something she filed when she bought the gun, something she filed when she gave the gun away, or something she filed when she sold it.
  8. Lucrum


    ...more "controls" won't make any GD difference.
  9. Exactly. The feds are accusing her with lying on the application, which is a specific intent crime. Even if they have inculpating evidence that reveals her intent at the time (highly unlikely), they will already have done their "good cop, bad cop" routine on her without her lawyer present to get her to "confess."

    Unfortunately, most people are unprepared to withstand the pressure of "friendly" questioning by law enforcement. They probably already got their confession before her arrest.
  10. The Gunman in his note said he got guns from her did you read the article I posted?
    #10     Dec 28, 2012