Gun Control

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. not if the Martians look like us.

    your pretty much a moron
     
    #181     Nov 18, 2015
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    You are the moron that seems incapable of determining who is a bad guy and who is a good guy. It is news to me that there are people that exist that are this stupid.

    Obviously(not to you), the Martian reference is wrt your dumb hypothetical.
     
    #182     Nov 18, 2015
  3. Yannis

    Yannis

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    #183     Nov 18, 2015
  4. #184     Nov 18, 2015
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Right. Like you know anything at all about firearms and firearm training.

    Also, please, for the love of all that is holy, learn the fucking difference between "your" and "you're". Especially if you're going to call someone a moron with the wrong one.
     
    #185     Nov 18, 2015
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    More deaths by illegally owned weapons. But hey, only thugs die from illegal guns, so what do we care, right fraudcurrents? And this is in California - with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

    Chump.

    As crime rises in Los Angeles, police, community take action
    By AMANDA LEE MYERS
    Nov. 22, 2015 3:32 PM EST

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Eduardo Rebolledo had just gotten into his pickup truck after work, eager to head home to his two children when a gang dispute erupted 30 yards behind him on a Los Angeles street. The 38-year-old ducked right into the path of a bullet that hit him in the head, killing him instantly.

    "He was completely innocent. The guy's never even had a parking ticket," said Detective Dave Peteque with the Los Angeles Police Department. "He's just a working Joe, a family man trying to support his kids."

    In a split second, Rebolledo joined the growing list of victims in the nation's second-largest city, where murders are up 12 percent this year and shooting victims have increased 20 percent. The city is also on the cusp of recording its 1,000th shooting victim of the year.

    After an especially violent weekend in late September, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck expressed his frustration about the bloodshed, particularly among gangs. "This is not Dodge City," Beck said, referring to 19 shootings in one weekend, 13 of which were gang-related.

    The increases come as redevelopment of the city's downtown and nearby neighborhoods has attracted trendy new bars and restaurants, thousands of new residents and megaprojects that include a $1 billion mixed-use hotel tower that will be the tallest in the West.

    In response to the rising numbers, the LAPD has deployed hundreds of elite officers to crime hot spots, increased the number of officers walking the streets versus patrolling in cars, and created a community relationship division dedicated to building the public's trust in police officers.

    But Beck said his department can't solve the problem alone.

    "A lot of it is public will," he said. "A will of everyone in the city of Los Angeles to say, 'Enough is enough.'"

    Members of the community say they stepped up their own efforts when the crime numbers started going up.

    Rebolledo's death, for instance, inspired a "peace movement" in the neighborhood where he was killed, said Michelle Miranda, founder of Alliance for Community Empowerment, a nonprofit that provides services to disadvantaged young people, including gang intervention.

    Young people involved with Miranda's organization decided to hold a peace march on a recent Saturday in response to Rebolledo's death. More than 250 people took to the streets wearing white shirts, carrying signs that included: "We protest our right to live in peace."

    "These are young people that know drugs in the community and gang activity, and they're tired of it," Miranda said.

    Miranda said the same youths who organized the march are working on more plans to continue the peace movement.

    At Good News Baptist Church in South Los Angeles, the Rev. Winford Bell began a program through his nonprofit group to train members of the community how to counsel family and friends of people who've been murdered.

    The idea for the so-called "life comforters" is to provide a safe outlet to vent anger and sorrow, and wherever possible, attempt to prevent retaliatory violence common among gangs.

    "Don't get me wrong, hardcore gang members are not going to hear me. Them we can't do nothing with," Bell said. "The other ones who aren't so hard, who aren't dedicated to being gang members ... If they come, we can do a lot of work."

    Los Angeles is among a number of major cities across the U.S. seeing rises in violent crime this year, including Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Cleveland and Houston. Other California cities also have seen increases, including Sacramento, Oakland and Long Beach.

    Though the numbers are up, those cities are far safer than they were in the early 1990s during the crack cocaine epidemic. In Los Angeles, for example, murders peaked in 1992 at 1,092 people killed.

    So far this year, there have been 251 homicides, compared to 225 during the same time period last year.

    Still, the LAPD is taking this year's uptick seriously.

    "We're not panicking," said Capt. Jeff Bert, commanding officer of the department's strategic planning group. "But we are in the business of driving down crime so when a crime spike goes up, we're all over it. It is a concern."

    It's still too early to pinpoint what's driving the increased violence across the country and in Los Angeles, said Charis Kubrin, a criminologist at the University of California at Irvine who analyzes crime in Southern California.

    She said there could be a number of contributing factors, including easier access to guns, the poverty rate, a new state law that reduced penalties for certain crimes, and a growing distrust of police, which can contribute to retaliatory violence.

    "If you don't see the police as a viable option when you have a problem, then you handle things on your own," Kubrin said.

    The LAPD, all the way to the chief, acknowledges that community trust in police is wavering.

    Restoring it will be the No. 1 way to turn the crime numbers around, Bert said.

    "We make or break our success based on our relationships, based on people's willingness to talk about to police and based on police's ability to get out of their car and talk to people," Bert said. "We can't arrest our way out of this."
     
    #186     Nov 22, 2015
  7. Last couple of days. As usual. All the time in the US. Yay guns.



    One man was shot and wounded last night in Miami Gardens, FL (link). One man was shot and killed in Ft Lauderdale, FL this morning (link). One man was shot and killed in Gwinnett County, GA last night (link). One person was shot and killed and six others were shot and wounded in shootings across Chicago, IL last night and this morning (link). A 7-year-old boy was shot in the head last night in Raleigh, NC (link). Two people were shot and wounded in Linden, NJ last night (link). Three people were shot and killed and another was shot and wounded in Columbus, OH Monday night; the gunman was shot and killed by police (link). Five people were shot and wounded in Minneapolis on Monday night (link). A woman was shot and killed before the gunman, her husband, shot and killed himself in Clayton, NC Monday night (link). A woman was shot and killed in a hospital in Tampa, FL on Monday, before the gunman shot and killed himself (link).

    Handguns and high capacity long guns should be banned
     
    #187     Nov 25, 2015
  8. #188     Nov 25, 2015
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  9. I think it's great how the NRA has so many people essentially brainwashed. (At least it's great for the NRA.) Let's be clear about one thing. The only thing the NRA cares about is its ability to sell guns. That you should be able to buy them is just a necessary consequence of the lobby's principal objective. And they have Americans falling over themselves, spinning like tops for them, trying to "out-American" one another. Mission accomplished.
     
    #189     Nov 25, 2015
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  10. You.re trashing my bible. You've taken the Confederate flag off the back of my F150. Now you want my guns too?

    What's left to make a redneck feel good about herself:D
     
    #190     Nov 25, 2015
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