Guidelines for Theta/Vega and Theta/Gamma Ratios in overall Portfolio

Discussion in 'Options' started by InTheMaking, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. JackRab

    JackRab

    Why is that exactly?
     
    #21     Jan 17, 2017
  2. destriero

    destriero


    LOL.

    Right, and the borrow on the shares is like 40-200%/year.

    And the combo-swap has no switch-risk at all, Bro. Just watch the monies roll-in on the calendar risk. Why don't you short AMZN vola in the reporting month and buy it in the backs? Sounds risk-free to me.
     
    #22     Jan 17, 2017
  3. destriero

    destriero

    Probably bc you don't have a fvcking CLUE what you feel the need to discuss here.
     
    #23     Jan 17, 2017
  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    Ai.... I think you're missing the point high-flyer...

    Where did I say it didn't have risk? That's my whole point... there's more risk than you would think... especially if you'r just looking at a theta number...

    But okay, you think your dick is bigger than mine... :thumbsup:

    The borrow on shares... whahaa... you can just about construct that +g/+th in any product, incl index options. Doesn't have anything to do with borrow rates...
     
    #24     Jan 17, 2017
  5. destriero

    destriero


    You're an idiot.

    The risk-reversal is a risk-position. You need to short the shares to hedge the thing.

    Ask your mom WHY the thing is expressing so much edge... or I will give you a hint... the edge is equal to the implied BORROWING COSTS on the short shares.

    Wow. Magic.
     
    #25     Jan 17, 2017
  6. JackRab

    JackRab

    :banghead:

    Yeah.... right... so by that count there's hardly any skew when borrowing rates are low?
    And you can offset that risk reversal by another one... still get +g/-th...

    Next thing you're telling me a short risk-rev is bullish....
     
    #26     Jan 17, 2017
  7. destriero

    destriero


    Oh rly? You can offset the bull R/R with a bear one? Wow, that's fvcking incredible!1 You mean... a box?!

    lol dude. I thank you for the comedy.
     
    #27     Jan 17, 2017
  8. JackRab

    JackRab

    No since that wouldn't give you any theta or gamma now would it...
    Anyway, move on dude... don't try to start a pissing contest...

    Back on topic, I was merely pointing out to the OP that just looking at one figure doesn't say anything... which is actually a point that you agree with me. So suck it up...
     
    #28     Jan 17, 2017
  9. destriero

    destriero


    The theta gives you a dollar-denominated risk of LOCAL gamma. I never mentioned otherwise and I could not agree with you less. And NO, you cannot cover the R/R risk with a opposing R/R as you'd be an edge-payer.
     
    #29     Jan 17, 2017
  10. JackRab

    JackRab

    O... I thought you mentioned something about your friends running big books and looking at that number as their main risk metric...

    My bad... I assume they are all just running front month books then? And on one single underlying and not a portfolio of several stocks/indices?
     
    #30     Jan 17, 2017