Grinding it out, day after day

Discussion in 'Journals' started by lescor, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Quote from lescor:

    The thing that's helped me get to another level is to truly not care about money when trading. That sounds counter intuitive, but I mean if you can train yourself to not care about your p/l, and only focus on executing, you will be better off. Every trader has been in a situation where they were up or down enough that they ignored their rules or did the wrong thing at the wrong time because they were letting the p/l affect them emotionally and influencing their thinking.



    I need help here too. I've been day trading just over a year and a half and for the first time I can remember last week I didn't allow a losing trade to influence how I managed the next trade. 18 months of trading, and finally a day where I truly, truly didn't let the P/L affect the subsequent trades.
     
    #221     Feb 7, 2010
  2. jem

    jem

    I read this this journal the first few days and just read the last few pages.

    If this rob guy doubts lescor trades for a living... I know he did.

    he traded with an office which was started by one of the traders who once traded in an office I owned.

    I met corey when he was down visiting Mike's office. Everyone in the office knew Corey and many said he was very good and profitable.

    Corey I look forward to reading your journal. There is a slight chance this is the wrong corey - but I doubt it.
     
    #222     Feb 7, 2010
  3. Lescor, thanks for the interesting thread

    According to you your average is 40K/mo and the last two years you`ve done better. So Lescor why, even being conservative, is 20K/mo reasonable and not say the average, when in the first week of 2010 you cannot know whether volatility/bots etc will change markets such that your P/L would apparently suffer by more than a half? Was it unexpected poor performance in late 2009? If so, it appears you strongly believe some fundamental change in markets dynamics has occured and it will affect your edge. I haven`t noticed but it may depend on strategy. That said, you are doing better than expectations thus far so for whatever reason you aimed low this year, perhaps you might change your mind now?
     
    #223     Feb 7, 2010
  4. OK, you don't believe him, we get it. Thanks for enlightening us with your wisdom. Bye now.
     
    #224     Feb 7, 2010
  5. Well, in that case I owe bjb a sincere apology. sykes too, if I'm wrong. Not the least bit convinced, but we'll go with that idea.

    Then again, if bjb ain't seriously pretending to be this stupid on purpose for his own reasons, now that's a real frightening thought.

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    Let me see... 110k deposit levers (up to) 10mil working capital

    10mil buying power leveraged off 100k deposit seeking 480k annual...

    10mil divide by 480k = +20.83% annualized ror

    That's so hard to comprehend? I just explained it to my springer spaniels while they ate dinner, and I'm pretty sure they grasped the gist, first pass

    Heaven help ol' bjb there if he ever musters the courage to dial up the ES on his trade platform. We'll be waiting for him
     
    #225     Feb 7, 2010
  6. lescor

    lescor

    Years. You just have to trade small and move up incrementally.
     
    #226     Feb 7, 2010
  7. lescor

    lescor

    Yes, I did set the bar low for this year. I don't know what the future will bring and I have been a bit concerned with all the anti-capital markets rhetoric out of washington. I hope they don't muck things up for us, but I have to be prepared if they do. It's nice to start the year off better than I expected, but I'll need that cushion if things go south, if I suffer a large drawdown or the markets are dead over the summer. An average is just that- an average of 12 months, and it's only one down.
     
    #227     Feb 7, 2010
  8. gaj

    gaj

    #228     Feb 7, 2010
  9. volente_00

    volente_00

    I'll take a guess and say Corey is trading around 3 to 4 million in BP on his 100k prop account. Is it really unreasonable to think a seasoned trader could achieve a 10 % return annually off of that type of intraday leverage ?
     
    #229     Feb 7, 2010
  10. 2,400,000 / 60000

    0.025 cents per share net profit, probably less than 4 cents gross.

    Do people realize what this means? I really don't think so. They focus on everything but this, and its the whole game.
     
    #230     Feb 7, 2010