Greek bonds pricing default? 1-year 82%

Discussion in 'Economics' started by the1, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. CrazyBoy

    CrazyBoy

    Sounds like a good deal, assuming they stay afloat long enough to fully service their 'obligations'.
     
    #31     Sep 6, 2011
  2. morganist

    morganist Guest

    It didn't say yield though it said value.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=GGGB1YR:IND

    Therefore I assumed it was the price of the bond not the return. Normally bonds state the price/yield then the expirary date. This stated value, it was confusing.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/uk/

    If you look when the price falls the yield increases. This is what I was trying to explain and why it was confusing. I will assume that value means yield in the future if what you are saying is true.

    Perhaps it is a good deal too. I doubt Greece will default in the next year or two. I wouldn't risk it after that. don't buy anything that expires post 2014.
     
    #32     Sep 6, 2011
  3. the1

    the1

    A quote of 82% indicates the dire straights Greece is in. I highly doubt you'd actually be able to buy a bond at that quoted rate and if you could don't expect to be paid.

     
    #33     Sep 6, 2011
  4. Currently, the two-way executable mkt in 1y GGB (4.1% Aug2012) is 86.899%/77.308% in terms of yield (56.50/59.50) in price). €1mil a side, but that's standard size for Greece these days.

    As to whether you will get paid, it's certainly not clear.
     
    #34     Sep 6, 2011
  5. morganist

    morganist Guest

    I think that the Germans are likely going to throw money at them to keep the EU together. The really big test is the maturity in 2014. Don't buy anything that expires durig or after 2014.
     
    #35     Sep 6, 2011
  6. Maybe you try directly with Greek public debt management agency.

    http://www.pdma.gr/(S(sgeyhk55c4mjeo552agpxm45))/ODDHX/StaticPage6.aspx?pagenb=450

    :)

    Primary Dealers

    Primary Dealers participating in the domestic platform have the following responsibilities:

    Participate in auctions and syndications and place the Greek debt to end investors
    Ensure liquidity in the secondary market
    Facilitate a broader disrtibution and trading of Greek government securities domastically as well as internationally.

    The Primary Dealers status is reviewed annually according to a number of performance criteria as described in the Operation Rules of Primary Dealers Currently there are 22 Primary Dealers:

    Alpha Bank
    Banca IMI
    Barclays
    BNP Paribas
    Citigroup
    Credit Suisse
    Deutsche Bank
    Emporiki Bank
    Eurobank
    Goldman Sachs
    HSBC
    ING Bank
    JP Morgan
    Merill Lynch
    Morgan Stanley
    National Bank of Greece
    Nomura
    Piraeus Bank
    RBS
    Societe Generale
    UBS
    UniCredit Bank
     
    #36     Sep 6, 2011