greatest hedge fund disaster story?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by windward, Jan 2, 2004.

  1. Closed his fund down and returned the $6 billion in assets back to investors. His unwillingness to jump into momentum-driven Internet stocks and sticking with value names like Federal-Mogul eventually wound-up hurting him as value stocks got liquadated by fund mangers in order to use cash to chase high growth names.

    At one point, The Tiger Family of Funds had about $20 billion under management in 1998.
     
    #21     Jan 2, 2004
  2. waggie,

    You are the real deal. Thanks for all the informative posts.
     
    #22     Jan 2, 2004
  3. Thanks, sounds intersting, I'll have a look at it at Amazon.

    Cheers!
     
    #23     Jan 2, 2004


  4. This SnP biz was the second pooching. He had earlier blown up on the Thai Baht.:eek:
     
    #24     Jan 2, 2004
  5. To ET's

    Little known as an aside from the big boys; this joker was a top notch PM in mtg backed securities from Drexal BL.. well the story goes he lost $600 million in one week when the FED raised rates in early 1994..he was wiped out
    of all assets within 5 days.

    Source: Infectious Greed, Frank Partnoy..a great read BTW.
    Best,
    david
     
    #25     Jan 2, 2004
  6. A mortgage trader that had 4 funds with $600 million and was heavily invested in mortgage PO Strips when interest rates rose sharply back in 1994.

    When interest rates rise, prepayments slow dramatically and thus the value of a PO Strip falls as well.

    Askin was barred by the SEC from the securities industry for two years, and agreed to pay a $50,000 fine without admitting or denying guilt. All that, and he literally stopped the MBS market in its tracks!
     
    #26     Jan 2, 2004
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    BAM (Beacon Asset Management)
     
    #27     Jan 2, 2004

  8. thanks for the book tip. not heard of that one, will check it out.

    surfer dave :)
     
    #28     Jan 2, 2004
  9. Quote from Trader5287:

    "This SnP biz was the second pooching. He had earlier blown up on the Thai Baht."

    Very true, very true!

    My favorite All-Time "fiasco" would have to be the Hunt Brothers and the Silver Crisis back on the COMEX in March of 1980.

    Having actually traded on the COMEX back in 1986, I only heard a few stories here and there during slow trading days or in the cafeteria. In any event, it was such a ridiculous "scene" when the COMEX decided to change the margin rules that there was a 50% one-day price decline on March 27th, 1980 as the price of silver plummeted from $21.62 to $10.80

    At $50.00 per penny per contract, you could see that in that one day alone, longs lost roughly $55,000 on one stinking contract!

    Things were so messed-up that the Hunt Brothers were not convicted of conspiring to manipulate the market until August of 1988. At this point, the Hunt's had liabilities of nearly $2.5 BILLION against assets of $1.5 Billion.

    Of course, the Board of Governors on the COMEX were privy to the changes in the rules. Think anyone in those meetings behind closed doors lost money? Can you say BEAR SPREAD???

    :p
     
    #29     Jan 2, 2004
  10. McCloud

    McCloud

    Beacon Hill Asset Management, lost over $400 million within a short period of time in 2002 in one of their bond funds ...
     
    #30     Jan 2, 2004