Grateful Iraqis

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PoundTheRock, May 6, 2006.

  1. Iraqi Soldiers at graduation: Rip off their clothes in protest over assignment

    Matthews: ...when they found out they wouldn't be serving right there in Fallujah, near their homes-look what they did. They started ripping off their uniforms-they say, "we won't go." (inaudible)Trainor, are those the people we are betting our future on?

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    Nice to see the Iraqi forces so willing to take part in securing their future. lol.
     
    #11     May 6, 2006
  2. most definetly he is. a fire fly will shine more light than this klansman.
     
    #12     May 6, 2006
  3. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    Muslim cultures tend to fall ass-backwards toward Stalinist and Islamist totalitarian regimes. But there are a lot of Muslims –Iraqis-- who want democracies and free markets. We’re making sure Iraq becomes a free market democracy, but we can’t do it without the best and brightest of the Iraqi people. It’s no easy task, so it will take a long time and that requires a more permanent presence. Call it a mild form of Imperialism if you like and attach all the whiny guilt and shame and moral inferiority to it all you want. Iraq is sitting on top of a lot of oil. Saddam was already politically and economically isolated when the Islamists decided to challenge us on 9/11. We took Iraq on the premise that we can make life better for the Iraqi people than Saddam ever could, and put us in an advantageous position with their oil fields.

    I never pretended that this was not about oil. Of course it’s about oil. Perhaps if you were up on current events you will for a second understand how the world works. But you want everything to be fair and equal and “lawful” when everything in nature is about competition, winners and losers. And while people in America waste their time with ritual self-loathing over how the West “ruined the world” and how land was “stolen” from Indians, Mexicans, and so forth, America isn’t going to just sit around and let people like Chavez, Mahmoud, the nationalization of Bolivia, and the Islamists in Niger put us at a disadvantage by restricting supply and grabbing a corner in the global price of oil.

    I blame the messenger because the messenger changes and loses messages in transit. They are not impartial. They have prejudice. They were taught to distrust all people in power (public and private) trying to protect our national interests. And when anything happens that helps our national interest, the news is conveniently lost in transit.
     
    #13     May 7, 2006
  4. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    Hilarious moonbat site. By the way, it’s nice to see a camera already in place to record it all before it begins. Another example of how the media anticipates it and then turns the sentiments of a few hundred Fallujians (who were miffed about their deployment orders) into a national pandemic.
     
    #14     May 7, 2006
  5. Sam, are you really that stupid or just playing a moron on the internets? Iraq is a disaster, quagmire and total failure, they don't want us there, they don't want democracy, they don't want free markets, they don't want capitalism, they don't want religious freedom, they don't want to work hard, they don't want to study, invent, compete.

    They are arabs, they are muslims, none of the above is part of their culture and they are not about to change their ways just because you and bush believe it's for their own good. They are not rational, practical or pragmatic people, they are going to fight us to the end even though at the end they will be the ones who will suffer the conserquences.
     
    #15     May 7, 2006
  6. Every get in the middle of a domestic abuse situation?

    You come across a man beating a woman, and you step in to try and stop it.

    You then find out, that after they both turn on you and smack you around, that they have been doing this dance of mutual abuse for a long time, and as much as they hate each other, they hate an outsider interfering in their lives even more.



     
    #16     May 7, 2006
  7. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    If that’s true, there is no way in hell our tiny number of troops could manage 25 million people in relative harmony for 3 years. I’m still waiting for the civil war that hasn’t happened. First it was “too many of our troops are being killed –we've got to cut and run.” Then it was “We are losing control: there is a civil war –we may as well cut and run.” Now it’s “the Iraqis all hate us and want us to drop everything and leave so we ought to cut and run.” What will be the next media illusion?

    Iraqis are more Westernized, educated, highly skilled and civilized than you think. Yes, Iraq has it’s own population of dim-headed Islamists and we all know Islamofacism is sweeping the Sunni Muslim world, but not because everyone in the Middle East chooses Islamic bondage over freedom. Many do, but many don’t. Like all things, ideologies compete for power. Communism was on the advance but when it was over an enormous number of entrepreneurs and natural capitalists emerged out of the ruins of the Soviet Union. We are simply offering a chance for the sizable majority of Iraqis who don’t want religious totalitarianism and dictators to control and run their lives.

    The only offense our enemies have now is to use the useful idiot media keep enough people like you thinking the way you do, so the Dems gain the power they need to order a cut-and-run, leaving oil and Iraq to the Islamofacists.
     
    #17     May 7, 2006
  8. r0r, we are in a civil war; very close to be full blown; there isn't any armony that is YOUR illusion'n'da polls conducted on da field suggest that
    soldiers [who know da situation much better then u&i] want home: 1every4 wants out NOW; 'n'75% of 'em want to get da hell out before da yr end.
     
    #18     May 7, 2006
  9. FredBloggs

    FredBloggs Guest

    you are one ignorant fool.

    if arabs do not want to work hard, invent or study, etc, perhaps you may like to explain why the first human civilizations were from this area - seeing as they are not creative?

    perhaps you would like to explain how come the first ever languages and writings were developed in the lands that are now iraq and iran - seeing as they hate to invent.

    those lazy good for nothings gave us language, buildings and structure in society.

    please refrain from these stupid racist slurs. they only show your ignorance and how crassly unsophisticated you are in the nature and history of mankind. although i am not an arab or a muslim, i still get offended by this ignorance, especially when it comes from someone of your background who starts screaming, crying and accusing people of being anti-semetic, racist etc when ever they point out that people of your own religion, or the government of israel, are less than perfect and leave a lot to be desired before they can be called civilized.

    while you fester in your pool of hate and ignorance, you may wish to contemplate, that these arabs who you despise with every ignorant brain cell you dont have, ACTUALLY COME FROM THE SAME BLOOD LINE/RACE AS THE JEWS! yes, you are all one and the same. i know you torrah/holy book says different, but science says otherwise. bad luck!

    please piss off
     
    #19     May 7, 2006
  10. The cradle of civilization, blah blah blah, what else is new? I am talking about the modern world, you're talking about ancient history.

    And in the modern world:

    there are 12 Million Jews in the entire world yet they have received 169 Nobel Prizes. The Muslims number 1.4 Billion or 117 times the number of Jews! They have SEVEN and one of them [Arafat] is a murderer.
    http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html

    Same blood line my ass, read and weep Fred "Arab Bitch" Bloggs.
     
    #20     May 7, 2006