grain spreaders

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by youngtrader, May 4, 2009.

  1. TraderTX

    Friday's numbers will indeed be interesting from a spread point of view. Curious to see how problems in old-crop stox numbers in beans are resolved. Q-X inverse/backwardation has weakened, but continues to indicate tighter stox than implied in June 30 report. X-F neutral at about 50% of full commercial carry as questions over beginning stox lingers.
     
    #81     Jul 9, 2009
  2. smalls

    smalls

    that u/z corn move was not a fun one the other day =\
     
    #83     Jul 10, 2009
  3. Thanks TraderTX -- I've been out of the market most of the week.
     
    #84     Jul 10, 2009
  4. Yeah still trying to figure this one out and why 100000 are trading in the front spread now after the NU was basically locked for a while.

    Only thing I can guess it that people don't think the current crop will be harvested by sept delievery.... total guess. Anyone else.
     
    #85     Jul 16, 2009
  5. Right long term bearish stuff should take spreads out to full carry. I heard traders don't believe that the crop will be ok... of course no one believes that silly usda corn number but yields/acr could be all time highs even if all those acres materialize, (which they won't). I think final production will still be there. Looking for curve to steepen. Seems like a lot of people don't agree... who knows maybe the crop will suck. I know people are frost scared as well and think last year was total luck to not get an early frost.
     
    #86     Jul 16, 2009
  6. It was due to short term cash tightness. Flat price dropped, farmers stopped selling while end users saw it as a chance to cover their needs. So caught a lot of guys (including myself) bearspread in the u/z and short hedgers were caught in july.

    Crop is picture perfect, ending stocks are plentiful, plenty of acres in the new crop. in my opinion that n/u squeeze was a one time event. Theres too many smart guys on the cash side of the business that would take major advantage of the situation if u/z did the same thing as n/u.
     
    #87     Jul 17, 2009
  7. Anybody in these spreads lately?
     
    #88     Jul 24, 2009
  8. smalls

    smalls

    day in and day out. what one are you talking about though?
     
    #89     Jul 24, 2009
  9. I've been looking at the various bean calendar spreads mostly. But I trade across various markets and don't always understand ag that well (yet more to learn). Anything catching your eye as far as action? Think Q/X can go south of 70 in the beans?
     
    #90     Jul 24, 2009