Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    That was a good call.
    I wish I made more today, but can't complain.
     
    #5441     Mar 25, 2015
  2. jsp326

    jsp326

    Whatever, Nostradamus. You also advised people to sell stocks in retirement accounts. From a long-term perspective, today is a blip...so is this week. If you're going to make long-term timing decisions, you don't make them on noise.
     
    #5442     Mar 25, 2015
  3. S2007S

    S2007S

    Think markets open lower tomorrow but turn around..NASDAQ had its biggest drop in about a year so it should be interesting to see where it closes tomorrow ......
    Futures long up for now...
     
    #5443     Mar 25, 2015
  4. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    I thought you went net long? I believe that if we open lower tomorrow, it is a BTFD opportunity. This is coming from someone who thinks the top is on -- I am not changing that view.
     
    #5444     Mar 25, 2015
  5. hajimow

    hajimow

    Yes I do because those who are in this site are active traders and what I meant was to go in cash and reduce their exposure into stocks. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that DOW only tumbled 300 points today did not go to zero means that there are some buyers in the market for any reason and there are also some sellers. I am just expressing my opinions and don't twist anybody's arm to sell and I am not occupying anyone's space here. There are enough space for everyone in today's internet cloud space.
     
    #5445     Mar 25, 2015
  6. hajimow

    hajimow

    I believe DOW might go up about 40 points tomorrow and if I am right and market is up only 40 points , it is a weak signal and shows there are no committed buyers and market will sell the next day.
     
    #5446     Mar 25, 2015
  7. jsp326

    jsp326

    There are also those of us who are swing/position traders and long-term market timers. Some of us have done extensive testing and we know daily noise has absolutely nothing to do with long-term trends. And that's all we've seen recently...noise.

    Assuming a few days = a long-term trend change is a novice' mistake.
     
    #5447     Mar 25, 2015
  8. hajimow

    hajimow

    Just one question. Then a 30% drop can also be considered noise in long term so why we are here when we know whatever happens in the long run will be filtered out as noise? Big financial institutions hire PhDs to write algorithms to juice out any possible dime from the market by trading those so called noise. Many traders make a killing from noise (HFT). If you do a research and filter mutual funds that have 10% profit in the last decade, you might hardly find one. That means that the current 30% to 50% yearly gain will not continue. I am here to make money out of short trends (so called noise). Noise is my bread and butter.
     
    #5448     Mar 25, 2015
  9. jsp326

    jsp326

    I never said a 30% drop was noise. That would generate a sell signal in almost any long-term market timing system. This week, we've seen the S&P, Russell 2000 and Nasdaq fall between 2-3%. That's not serious enough to panic and move to cash in long-term investments as you suggested.
     
    #5449     Mar 25, 2015
  10. hajimow

    hajimow

    I agree but don't you think once market drops 30% and you panic, it is already late to sell?
     
    #5450     Mar 26, 2015