Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. This is the kind of Post that gives Forums a bad name, perpetuates the "Dumb Money" belief.
     
    #28531     Jul 2, 2025
  2. S2007S

    S2007S


    But it's true. It's crazy true.
     
    #28532     Jul 2, 2025
  3. Not only are you not keeping your own Emotions in check and being rational, but you're also having a negative effect on others. You'd probably get booted out of a professional trading room.
     
    #28533     Jul 2, 2025
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    #28534     Jul 2, 2025
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  5. S2007S

    S2007S



    I don't think there is any such circumstances that could ever show a market ever being down in any of the scenarios they post. It seems that literally 100% of the time they can find anything to showcase a bull market is on the way after the fact markets have already outperformed. It's actually a zero risk free market ....
     
    #28535     Jul 2, 2025
  6. nitrene

    nitrene

    Its interesting that almost all of those years was the beginning of bull markets. Only 2020 didn't last long due to the Fed induced profits recession. 2003 & 2009 were both the beginning of huge bull runs. The 1968 & 1980 runs only lasted until the end of the year with a 20-30% moves. The real breakout wasn't until December 1982 when it went up 160% until Black Monday 1987 (1000 --> 2600).
     
    #28536     Jul 2, 2025
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  7. It looks like a bad jobs report is coming out this morning.
     
    #28537     Jul 3, 2025
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    What do you mean fed induced profits recession?

    2020 and 2025 are clearly unique compared to the other examples. Q1 2020 selloff was pandemic related and q1 2025 was economic sepiku related.

    To your point the other bull runs were off of significant bear runs.

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    #28538     Jul 3, 2025
  9. S2007S

    S2007S

    Those job numbers were definitely not rate cut friendly....
     
    #28539     Jul 3, 2025
  10. nitrene

    nitrene

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    Fed raising rates did reduce profits. That is the reason the QQQ was down 30% I believe. At least until October 2022 when the AI fever hit the markets.

    Raising rates so quickly also led directly to the HTM losses and bankruptcies of SVB, Signature & FRC. BAC still suffers from its massive HTM losses that just keep growing. BAC has been a dog like most of the KRE since then.
     
    #28540     Jul 3, 2025