Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Looks like you should have sold those levered longs.
     
    #18971     Mar 6, 2018
  2. KevinD

    KevinD

    It's ok, I suspect he has a bag of levered shorts somewhere in the house as well.
     
    #18972     Mar 6, 2018
  3. S2007S

    S2007S



    I know my predictions have been off, I didn't change my opinion, I'm still sticking to it, I'm still predicting a drop of 50%+++ and negative rates, once the next recession/crisis comes along all talks of any rate hikes will be dismissed...and what will the fed do to create another prop job in the economy?? Negative interest rates will be the only way since rates are still at historical lows the only way will be down and then negative....if rates were at 4%-5%-6% they would have some breathing room, but since rates are still hovering around 1.5% they have nooooo room but to go negative on rates when the next crisis comes along....they waited like fools and have kept rates low for farrr too long. ...so the next collapse should easily drop the s$p under 1200.....market has had an already extended bull run...almost a decade old, and we know bull markets don't last forever so a decade old bull market on top of a crisis, equals the collapse no one in mankind has ever witnessed....
     
    #18973     Mar 7, 2018
  4. pauk

    pauk

    As I suspected. Someone owes you an apology ;) (not that I think you're even aware of being called out due to the ignore feature)
     
    #18974     Mar 7, 2018
  5. @pauk oh dear - Called out for a losing 12 point trade?! I won't even ask! lol
    SS 2700
    STOP AT 2709
     
    #18975     Mar 7, 2018
  6. Visaria

    Visaria

    50% drop in the stock market and negative interest rates? Can't see that happening.

    I can see 35 to 50 % drop at some point with increased interest rates, sure.
     
    #18976     Mar 7, 2018
  7. -9
     
    #18977     Mar 7, 2018
  8. volente_00

    volente_00


    So 10 points made in spread bet is how much USD ?

    Are the positions time constrained like American options?
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2018
    #18978     Mar 7, 2018
  9. Depends on how much you choose to trade 'per point'.
    Lets use the Dow instead of the spx, as it gets confusing because what the spreadbet firms refer too as a 'point' is usually a tick in the real market.
    I just trade for a hobby since I never know where the damn things gonna go (I only have charts/TA which is more or less a coin flip to me), so I trade at just £1 per point on the Dow.
    So If I go long the Dow at 25000 and cover it at 25100, i've made 100 points (100*£1 = £100 profit (or about 140 USD))
    My dad used to trade £120 per point, so in his case, he'd make £12000 in the above example.

    In my real life SPX trade you referenced above, I traded taht for £1 per point and made £100 (because even though it was '10 points' in terms of '10 handles', it was actually '100 points' in spreadbet terms)


    Not time constrained. It's much more akin to regular furtures trading than options
     
    #18979     Mar 7, 2018
  10. Visaria

    Visaria

    nice opening trade...i bot at 570, out at 670 ym
     
    #18980     Mar 7, 2018