Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. volente_00

    volente_00

    What are you seeing ?

    Always like to hear other's perspectives to keep me fluid in my thoughts
     
    #17781     Feb 9, 2018
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    But when wrong it would have made better sense to remove whole position at same time. You're a good trader but could be that much better with that tweak.
     
    #17782     Feb 9, 2018
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Market oversold in an uptrend.
     
    #17783     Feb 9, 2018
  4. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    I respect that, I am guessing since you are a trend trader, whiplashing is your enemy nr1. Dont you think that in this current volatility the probability of whiplashing is much greater? Do you simply just keep taking the trades as usual and just hope to ride it out until you get those big winners?
     
    #17784     Feb 9, 2018
  5. volente_00

    volente_00

    You make the assumption that when wrong the trade never goes into profit of any of the objectives

    Short 2500
    Targets 2475
    2450
    Stop 2520

    Market drops to 2470
    Then rallies to 2525

    Without scaling out you lose 25 points on trade on full position

    With scaling you make at least 25 points on half
    Then lose 25 points on other half
    Net Breakeven minus commissions
    This also assumes not trailing the stop. The majority of the time when my first objective hits, I almost always trail the stop to entry to keep a winner from becoming a loser.

    I'd rather break even than lose full stop amount on trade as this helps smooth the equity curve.
     
    #17785     Feb 9, 2018
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  6. volente_00

    volente_00


    Ha ha

    Market overvalued in start of bear market
     
    #17786     Feb 9, 2018
  7. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    Its funny how similar our trading styles seem to be on the surface volente.
     
    #17787     Feb 9, 2018
  8. volente_00

    volente_00


    Doubtful

    Before the correction weren't you a long only trader ?
     
    #17788     Feb 9, 2018
  9. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    No, I have never been long only. I got bull blinded and over confident. And I still dont think I was wrong to be bullish, my big mistake was being over confident and not being weary of the correction. Sometimes you gotta get punched in the face before you think straight again.

    Maybe saying our trading styles are similar was wording it poorly, but much of what you say resonates very well with me.
     
    #17789     Feb 9, 2018
  10. volente_00

    volente_00

    Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth

    :cool:
     
    #17790     Feb 9, 2018