It's funny reading the posts, thing goes up, silence or comments of distress, thing does down, rejoice, you guys are like yoyos following price, then one looks at the yearly chart and it's a doji and digging deeper, a big triangle.
Your whole premise that stocks will go down because rates go up is faulty to start with. Historically, this isn't true at all, because usually when interest rates are first raised, it signals some major positives on the underlying economy. So don't be too sure about where you think US indexes will go from here.
So you think raising rates with $18t of debt is a positive? I am a technical trader, I do get involved in discussions about rates etc, but that doesn't influence decision making.
Then why are you bitching about peoples calls? Every day the market feeds you information, its up to you to try to decipher that information and outsmart your opponents, i dont see anyone here making long term calls, mostly swing/day trades, traders change their opinion on a daily basis based on info, so whats your issue?
When I was a young lad growing up in Moscow my Grandad used to always remind me that the winner is the one that has the last laugh