Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. romik

    romik

    We will listen to you next time bruv
     
    #12941     Dec 15, 2015
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  2. who is feeling a long on ES into the meeting tomorrow? Debating on buying an ES call tonight but feel like we might see some form of pullback before the meeting announcement or right around it.

    Short a small amount of vol currently as well.
     
    #12942     Dec 15, 2015
  3. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    Refinancing / rolling forward maturing debt at a potentially higher rate may be the result. (We dont pay principal on debt to my knowledge) .Also new debt will be auctioned at the new rates as usual.
    What if growth and inflation expectations decrease due to the fed rate hike resulting in decresing yields 5 years To 30 years. Debt servicing costs due to refinancing and new issues may go down.
    Cant just .0025 * 18 trillion or, maybe i am not understanding what you mean.
    Anyway, i will get out of you traders way here, but this is an important issue.
    Debt service presently is a small absolute amount and percentage of GDP.
    I think its about250 bil. presently and this is probably less than the dollar amount in the 80's and like any good borrower, hope the curremcy is devalued over time.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2015
    #12943     Dec 16, 2015
  4. romik

    romik

    Nobody knows shit basically :)

     
    #12944     Dec 16, 2015
  5. Interest payments definitely won't increase by 900b per year if rates go up by a quarter pt, only about a third of all outstanding treasuries need to be rolled over each year, the increase in interest payments would probably amount to no more than 40b per year.
     
    #12945     Dec 16, 2015
  6. Visaria

    Visaria

    stops moved to 17500
     
    #12946     Dec 16, 2015
  7. Visaria

    Visaria


    ah, out at 17575...them profits burning a hole in ma pocket
     
    #12947     Dec 16, 2015
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  8. what if the fed doesn't hike? full cash just in case ;)

    gold is up going into an expected rate hike....interesting
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2015
    #12948     Dec 16, 2015
  9. Visaria

    Visaria

    current thoughts...90% chance of rate hike tonight, 0.25% only. still 10% chance no rate hike, in which case stock indices crash 5 to 10 %. might be worth buying otm puts to hedge tail risk. gc would rise 10% as well.

    if as expected, rate hike, stocks fluctuate, but strong buying opp, due to less uncertainty...strong xmas rally to follow in next few days leading to record highs by yr end.
     
    #12949     Dec 16, 2015
  10. oil broke uptrend, probably will take equities down with it
     
    #12950     Dec 16, 2015