Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. NeoTrader

    NeoTrader

    If I may, when you say "price gyrations", what do you mean by that?
     
    #12811     Dec 8, 2015
  2. S2007S you have done some very good trades in oil (DWTI) and Gold (DUST) so this really is your type of trading market. I like this trade as well. I just always have to remember the bounces happen quickly and sometimes overnight.

    Not sure that they will hike at this point or not. But gut feeling is that if they pass on the hike there will be a pretty big rally. Market is starting to price the hike in right now. With or without a hike the market looks tired, weak....long running bull stories all over wall street breaking down in pretty much all sectors except airlines. And yes, it was one hell of a bull run. Bull runs always finish at some point just like bear markets.

    But most assure, the bulls have put up a hell of a fight until now so if we do see some decent drops, look for quick squeezes and bounces for a while as they fight to continue to keep the ship afloat. Be very careful about shorting into the hole.

    Apple, GOOG, Amazon will all rally "here and there" and create quick bounces that will make the market behavior "look" like the bull market is still intact. Its tough to trade the early drops in anything but with 24 hours ES monitoring. They may shift the bigger drops into the night sessions. And then bounces as we approach NY session.

    If the Fed passes on the rate hike Dec 16, then it may open the door for Draghi and Abe to QE quickly...in this case no market drops would be expected to last and buying on the dips continues.

    I also think that Biotech ETF LABD still has some dropping to do yet.... of course with spike bounces as they squeeze here and there.
     
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    #12812     Dec 8, 2015
  3. S2007S

    S2007S

    LONG GUSH
    Been buying under $9
    Last purchase today around $7.85

    Sold off DRIP
    And unfortunately sold ERY yesterday at $27.50 only to see it skyrocket to $30+ this morning.
     
    #12813     Dec 8, 2015
  4. S2007S

    S2007S


    This is one of the longest bull runs in history and like all bull markets They always end....this time though it's the fed that has kept this bull market rally intact since 2009...as I said the fed has created an illusion of an economic turnaround....it can only last so long. The longer this market goes to the upside without a real meaningful pullback when it does happen its going to quite massive.....I'm talking at least 40%%.
     
    #12814     Dec 8, 2015
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  5. I fully agree:)
     
    #12815     Dec 8, 2015
  6. Stewie

    Stewie

    I noticed Rickshaw Man wasn't here to say this morning how the markets always go up overnight... hmmmmm
     
    #12816     Dec 8, 2015
  7. The fed will move this month, its a certainty. Fed fund futures has it priced that way and its likely to stay that way with less than a week away from the next FOMC. Unless the stock market crashes the fed will move next week.

    But all that has been priced in, what is unknown is if the fed will continue to nudge rates higher next year, or if they will adopt a wait and see approach. Its hard to justify hiking again when inflation is so muted. I got a feeling the dollar will actually tank once the fed gets off ZIRP.
     
    #12817     Dec 8, 2015
  8. surprised Vis is not riding the ES down from early this morning?

    2050 is what I am watching...if it breaks with good volume I will ride it down a bit. But its already dropped a good bit from the Asian session so Im not sure any further downside
     
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    #12818     Dec 8, 2015
  9. today's ES short squeeze mirrored crude oil
     
    #12819     Dec 8, 2015
  10. Visaria

    Visaria

    Hey Pricechange, I shorted ES at 70...but didn't post the trade, but still in it....
     
    #12820     Dec 8, 2015
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