Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Nice reversal day. Looks good if you are bearish.
     
    #11361     Oct 13, 2015
  2. Visaria

    Visaria

    shorted more TF at 1145...want to short es more, but will wait till tomorrow...actually will put a sell stop in at around 1187.5 overnight
     
    #11362     Oct 13, 2015
  3. The markets are quite difficult to judge quickly these days and DWTI/LABD run quickly. But I think we might be good for LABD from here forward for a while (from $50s up to $75 area). I have been watching FAZ ( thinking it will go $47 moving up to $60) lately and think we have en entry here tommorrow
     
    #11363     Oct 13, 2015
  4. Visaria

    Visaria

    out at 1.1394
     
    #11364     Oct 13, 2015
  5. I just looked at HYG for the first time since early last week...That thing topped out late last week, probably a good head's up for the divergence...then crude came off, but the indicies just sat there for awhile...per usual, they seem to always be the laggards.
     
    #11365     Oct 13, 2015
  6. Reviewing these charts and IWM (which I stayed away from since last week), broke hard today...RVX re-tested the levels from 8/19 and if that bounce from HYG is over, then it probably resumes the downtrend...
     
    #11366     Oct 13, 2015
  7. romik

    romik

    @Nine_Ender overall you are correct, the predominant trend is an undeniable bull, so I won't even attempt disputing that.
     
    #11367     Oct 14, 2015
  8. I think last night just a bit early....these numbers still hold true
    markets will fool me until they don't..romik correct, they will present the psychology setup until the most people are again bullish before letting it drop

    now watching 1989 for break and for short opport...maybe london session?

    hesitated at the drop into the close today because this trade will be a longer term one (next few weeks) and bigger one (wider stops and larger investment) so I wanted to verifiy the drop to 1989 and watch that support behavior.

    Max showed very good persistence today....ignored potential psychology setups and just traded the tape as it unfolded. His sell mid day today was classic seasoned professional
     
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    #11368     Oct 14, 2015
  9. yes, these are all the trials and tribulations of the underlying elements of the indices. So its a matter of them all breaking down before the indices will break below the trading range (right now 2014-1998)...not so much worried about IWM because it shows true..but Nasdaq and spx have (three card monte) some elements moving up even as some are breaking down and these diversions will keep the indices from breaking down.

    This thread is amazing as some members are watching/trading the elements (effectively so) and others the indices (both cash and futures) with commodities and forex here as well. There is even overnight trading here..so someone is always manning the phones so to speak.

    The problem with trading overnight is that the elements of the indices become obscured and one forgets that they indeed are the reason the indices move in one direction or the other.
     
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    #11369     Oct 14, 2015
  10. for what its worth:

    china giving more negative econ data-deflation?
    japan now joining the mix of bad econ data-zero growth
    glencore continuing downward in both HK and UK
    Russia stating they have no plans to cut crude production
    consistent revenue misses on US earnings reports so far, but nflx tomorrow (probably good earnings)

    I don't know any of this has any meaning in a no rate hike environment...could all easily be ignored regarding equities


    some areas acting logical though:

    dollar still in good downtrend
    gold still in good up trend
    crude starting to act accordingly
    base metals showing expected weakness
    is the coffee trade getting too crowded or is it still good for a while?

    could all change in a minute though
     
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    #11370     Oct 14, 2015