Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

Discussion in 'Trading' started by makloda, Jan 27, 2007.


  1. yea the bounce now on the TF looks shortable down toward 1122

    I am waiting
     
    #10871     Oct 7, 2015
  2. Max E.

    Max E.


    Yeah, lately ive just been trying to look for spots where the market is going to fuck the most traders, like todays wash out, or the reversal on friday, seems like there is no rhyme or reason to it, other than punishing the people once they finally change gears from long to short.
     
    #10872     Oct 7, 2015
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  3. ok in TF at 1133 st 1138
     
    #10873     Oct 7, 2015
  4. flat 1133 low coviction
     
    #10874     Oct 7, 2015
  5. Max E.

    Max E.


    If i had to put my call on it, id be long volatility in the ES next couple days, short it in energy, i was another one of the suckers who bought into BTU and alot of those names this morning, but thankfully it showed me what the market was going to do in general. (Like i said earlier take what i say about the ES FWIW cause im not much of an index trader.)

    But i think that Energy stocks arent going back to the lows after the last couple days, but the ES might, but i think weve tested and tested and tested these bounces in energy and bounced them and went to lows. So i think this time we are going to stall, and stay around here, then maybe gear up for another round to punish the shorts.
     
    #10875     Oct 7, 2015
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  6. Yes, and crude seems to be the hammer that is really accounting for alot of this...Granted, I guess it all goes back to the US$, but I've seen a few days where that thing is spiked and it generates some sharp squeeze or reversal in the indicies...
     
    #10876     Oct 7, 2015
  7. XLE looks decent for a short or maybe some puts. (Then again, I hate shorting this stuff when it's already come off the highs)
     
    #10877     Oct 7, 2015
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  8. yea I was pulling the trigger on oil etf this morning (I was sold on the higher oil story) then it starting breaking a little and I realized that the long oil story was just more crowd/harvest and I backed away

    after many many lessons I hesitate hard on my first morning impulse buy and then fade it cuz its usually a follow the crowd move and I rather be on the other side of the crowd everytime
     
    #10878     Oct 7, 2015
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  9. and just like that the selling stops on a dime...really can only scale in and out in this kind of environment...so damn skittish.
     
    #10879     Oct 7, 2015
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  10. Max E.

    Max E.


    Yeah exactly, more than anything ive just been trying to focus on reacting, i know that should be the mentality in general, but what i mean is that when you see prices hovering around a support/resistance point just react, and trade it in the way that it makes the first move, knowing that there is going to be alot of bag holders driving price action either way.
     
    #10880     Oct 7, 2015
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