GOP Abandons Conservatives

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Avalanche, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. continues to DRAIN THE RESOURCES AND STATE BUDGETS of huge economic powers like California and other States with his Administration's "soft" policy on illegal aliens:

    http://washingtontimes.com/national/20031211-120505-1795r.htm

    Bush is a Protectionist when it comes to our national Economy.
    But when it comes to defending our very OWN borders, the guy has no problem letting illegal aliens in! Meanwhile, Congress just sits there and refuses to change the 14th Amendment, allowing any pregnant illegal alien to obtain FREE medical care and social services once her child is born on U.S. soil.

    Thanks Dubya!
    You and Vicente Fox make a great couple.

    :(
     
    #21     Dec 12, 2003
  2. Pabst

    Pabst

    I'm not going to argue that Bush is my kind of fiscal conservative, but I'm in favor of the virtual destruction of the Federal Government. So most everyone is to the left of me on spending. However if you're closely following the budget debate, the budget is being roundly critisized by LIBERALS, for SPENDING TOO LITTLE!!

    http://www.house.gov/obey/item-lhhsdissent.htm
     
    #22     Dec 12, 2003
  3. What else is new???

    :D
     
    #23     Dec 12, 2003
  4. the pigs have always been pigs, maybe with different names: pharohs, emperors, pontiffs, lords, kings, czars, whigs, democrats, republicans, etc., etc.

    there is no fact more proven than "power corrupts," and its corollary "the people allow it." why should history reverse course today?

    that is the genius of the US Constitution - that, recognizing human nature, it divided power and pitted it against itself. the founders realized that the men who would seek power would never deserve it, so it forced them to constantly fight with other undeserving men to exercise it.

    obviously those in power dislike this feature, hence the neverending movement to change it, from Marbury v. Madison to "gun control" to guantanamo and the "patriot" act.

    the travesty occurring now is not the fault of the administration - which is only doing what comes naturally to anyone given too much power - but of a collusion of the other branches to allow it, and of a people that have allowed themselves to become too ignorant to notice.
     
    #24     Dec 12, 2003
  5. Madison,

    Great post. You have perfectly distilled the genius of the Founders to a few sentences.

    Focus group interviews with voters invariably come back with the news that voters are annoyed by "partisan bickering" and want their representatives to "work together to get things done" or some such nonsense. I think such polling accounts for the Bush "New Tone" strategy that required him to kiss up to Democrats as they ruthlessly backstabbed him.

    If people truly understood our system, they would applaud partisan bickering, gridlock, attacks on one branch by another,etc. The disasters tend to occur when they are all in agreement.
     
    #25     Dec 12, 2003
  6. I couldn't agree with you more, especially your last comment!

    :p
     
    #26     Dec 12, 2003
  7. Things you have to believe to be a Republican today

    Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

    The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

    "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

    The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

    Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

    A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

    HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

    Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

    Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

    A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

    Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include censoring the Internet.

    The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George W. Bush's driving record is none of our business.

    You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.

    Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

    What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what G.W. Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

    Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
     
    #27     Dec 13, 2003
  8. Pabst

    Pabst

    Gee C Robinson, you're such a witty writer. Oh, you merely plagerized this inane list from another idiot. A link or a footnote giving credit to your source can do wonders toward preserving your credability.
     
    #28     Dec 13, 2003
  9. gee pabst.........if i knew the source i would definitely give credit. sorry i didn't know we were adhering to journalistic standards in the chit chat section.... can you please forgive me.

    of course i didn't come up with this.........not even endorsing it....but i am an ex-republican that is fed up with this "new" conservatism. and pssssssssssssst, i even censored part of it. just found it to be entertaining and thought i might share it with the other members.

    if you go through the majority of my previous post i have always tried to credit/link all sources when possible.
     
    #29     Dec 13, 2003
  10. Political relativism seems to have run amok on ET. I wonder if after 4 months of a Dean Administration (heaven help us), whether "Elitists" on this board will be posting diatribes about Howie's betrayal of the left. Sorry, folks, but our's is a system that demands compromise, even with one-party "control" in Washington. To offend no one is to do nothing. And to expect otherwise strikes me as hopelessly naive.
     
    #30     Dec 13, 2003