Well I've done about 450 round turn trades. I'm profitable but just by the hair of my chinny-chin-chin. My trading isn't even minimum wage. If it weren't for the low brokerage commissions, I wouldn't even be profitable. So to all of you who want to fight this battle and who have made a success of it, you have my complete admiration. I'll lurk for a while, in hopes of catching some ideas that I might try.