Goldman, once warning of $200 oil, sees $45 in 2009...WORTHLESS ANALYSTS!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. #11     Dec 14, 2008
  2. whatever goldman says, do the opposite.
     
    #12     Dec 14, 2008
  3. You guys are really clueless when it comes to sell-side research.

    The oil analyst doesn't speak for "Goldman." His opinion is his opinion. I've known a lot of salespeople who will quietly pan their own house analyst. Salespeople ought to have that freedom. The client relationship is oftentimes with the salesperson. I actually read the original reports from the Goldman analyst calling for a 'super spike above $100' ... he wrote that when oil was still below $50 and laid out a powerful argument. Certainly anyone who paid attention profited from that.

    And we should all know that 'calling the top' is precarious work.

    The Goldman oil analyst has done some great work over the last few years, and he deserves some credit. Not that he, or anyone else is holding their breathe to get some from ET ...
     
    #13     Dec 14, 2008
  4. talknet

    talknet

    #14     Dec 14, 2008
  5. TGregg

    TGregg

    Hey, let's all play Goldie Analyst. [dons impressive suit and tie]

    :D
     
    #15     Dec 14, 2008
  6. The big 3 make some of the most gas guzzling monsters so if they fail then more efficent cars will get on the road. ( Europeans have had smaller cars for decades... ) When the big monstrosities get off the road then it is only logical that demand will drop.

    Its enlightning to see how not that long ago people were driving well below the speed limit (at least here in our country) and now that petrol prices have dropped they have gone back to speeding just above the speedlimit again, especially the big gas guzzling monstrosities driven by young mums. There is no self control by the masses en large. Petrol is just too cheap and it has to go up.

    Maria
     
    #16     Dec 14, 2008
  7. I wonder if those big firms issue two reports, one for the public and another for their private clients. In this way, they can "create" the "other side" when their private clients need to accumulate or distribute.
     
    #17     Dec 14, 2008
  8. The drop is temporary and I attribute it more to psychological/behavioral factors than anything else. By the time we enter the next economic up cycle (who knows when?) price will skyrocket again.
     
    #18     Dec 14, 2008
  9. i'm not going to apologise for Goldman's call, however i can tell you they've
    been reading my crude oil threads for years, unfortunately i did make a very
    bad call saying crude would go to $180 — they just wanted to top me ; )

    crude to $55 . . . how about $34 ? http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141755&highlight=$34
    Crude Oil to $180: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128919
    Crude Oil to $144: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107289
    Crude to $89: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51120
     
    #19     Dec 14, 2008
  10. Yup = shorted the top call. buying here on the bottom call.
     
    #20     Dec 14, 2008