Gold may be on the verge of a major price collapse

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Cutten, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. Cutten

    Cutten

    It's pretty clear what I was expecting didn't play out. The recent market action is simply not consistent with my view, so I've exited the last of my shorts at $810, as I mentioned in my prior post. I am flat now except a few Jan puts which will probably expire worthless.

    I thought there was a big imbalance of longs in this market, but I probably overestimated how much. Right now, it does look pretty much like a sharp but not major correction in a bull market. I did think there were good prospects for a major dollar rally in the short/medium-term - 2 weeks later and I think I got the timing and direction fairly accurate, but I was wrong on the extent of the move, it was way smaller than I was expecting. Right now it looks as though the move is done for now and was just a moderate counter-trend correction, rather than the beginning of a more major selloff.
     
    #41     Nov 23, 2007
  2. Cutten

    Cutten

    Ok, no worries - sometimes over the net the tone can get misinterpreted :) I agree with you about the recent action - it's a pretty decisive bounce off $775 and break above $800. As for the major collapse, I was expecting a move below $700 at least, and thought a 20% fall over 6-8 weeks was likely, that's a pretty big move for a low volatility commodity like gold.

    Anyway, right now I am flat and just going to wait for a clear breakout above $850 or below $775 before I make my next play.
     
    #42     Nov 23, 2007
  3. Cutten

    Cutten

    Hmm...I did feel gold (and the other anti-dollar plays) was getting like that recently. The COT report and Gisele Bundchen news stories just smelled of "top". Well, oil and gold did reverse 10% peak to trough, but it didn't last long, and the Euro barely budged before making new highs, so I guess I overestimated things. This was more of a sharp short-term correction than a proper decline. Certainly gold is not up as much as oil was up in 2006 from its prior range. The rally is only a few months old, for one thing - perhaps that was my mistake, trying to fade a rally that simply has not lasted that long.
     
    #43     Nov 23, 2007
  4. Very disappointing movement in Gold and Silver today. Instead of Gold challenging the $840 mark, it goes right down to $810. Same for Silver. With Oil inevitably going down its highs, is this a complete reversal in the precious metals? Or is it just a temporary correction?
     
    #44     Nov 27, 2007
  5. I wasn't disappointed one bit.
    Oil was down over three bucks. You want gold to be <i>up</i> on a day like that? I put on a huge gold long position late this afternoon, will probably exit sometime this week for a $10-$20 gain.
     
    #45     Nov 27, 2007
  6. And what makes you think that Oil will go back up again. Im not saying that it wont, I just want to know your analysis. Btw, oil and gold do not always move together. Lets not forget that.
     
    #46     Nov 27, 2007
  7. Do you feel that gold will run in tandem with oil or do you see gold functioning independently ( short term )?

    OPEC's promising to do what it can to bring the oil price down and tomorrow we get the U.S. inventory numbers. Could be a bad oil day unless those inventory data are really low.

    Hans
     
    #47     Nov 27, 2007
  8. Here's my analysis:

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1693969>

    That's it.

    An experienced trader just needs to look over that chart for a couple seconds to know that whatever is being charted, is far more likely to go up than down in the near term. Above 82 before the week is up- you'll see.
     
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    #48     Nov 27, 2007
  9. Hmm maybe I should abandon my long ZG position in gold since anytime someone says it is so clearly going up a blind man can see it, it usually drops which it did today so far about $7...

    :D
     
    #49     Nov 27, 2007
  10. Whatever RM's style of presenting his calls, any time he makes a call it's more probable that he's right than that he's wrong.
     
    #50     Nov 27, 2007