Gold is such a pathetic hedge(or a non-hedge even)

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by trader99, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    There is a .0001% chance that within one calendar year, the energy grid will go down for an extended period of time (say, a few weeks) because of sabotage, solar flares, geomagnetic field disturbance, or just plain old Satan. If that happens, I think CL demand will rise a good deal.

    Otherwise, I stare at the small energy portion of my portfolio and whimper. Hehe! Dividends? Whoopdie f-ing do.
     
    #21     Oct 31, 2020
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  2. fargone

    fargone

    Agree, It is gonna take sometimes
     
    #22     Oct 31, 2020
  3. AbbotAle

    AbbotAle

    If you're trading then Gold is just a number that goes up and down.

    It's a pretty good speculation vehicle regardless of whether it's a hedge or not against this and that.

    Many Gold traders in 2020 have made out like bandits. Fantastic moves both ways..

    PS. It's unproven but some say having a One Ounce Gold coin on your desk increases overall trading profits...
     
    #23     Oct 31, 2020
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  4. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    Instead of trading gold, why not just buy some and hold it. In 20 years time, your dollars are almost guaranteed to lose 90% of their purchasing power. Do you think gold will lose 90% of its purchasing power?
     
    #24     Oct 31, 2020
  5. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    #25     Oct 31, 2020
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Guess you missed this part:-

    "Putting things in a bit of perspective, Q3's sales come following record purchases by central banks in 2018 and 2019."
     
    #26     Oct 31, 2020
  7. CharlesS

    CharlesS

    What several seemingly astute macro analysts have said in the past year:

    • Gold is a hedge against negative real rates
    • Gold is not a reliable hedge to equity market risk
    • Gold appreciation comes during relatively short, high momo moves separated by long periods of hard-to-trade chop
    Related:
    • During the periods/moments of the greatest stress on the entire financial system, the correlation of all assets approaches 1, including gold;
    • On margin calls, the over-leveraged get out of everything, including gold
    Thus trading gold short-term is esp difficult

    Also related, per Real Vision founder Raoul Pal: when bonds have near-zero rates, their volatility increases, and their reliability as a hedge to equity markets is much reduced. Look at the TLT chart from March during the worst of the equity meltdown.
     
    #27     Oct 31, 2020
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  8. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    #28     Oct 31, 2020
  9. maxinger

    maxinger

    Gold is such a good product for day trading.
     
    #29     Oct 31, 2020
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    #30     Oct 31, 2020
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