GOLD has topped !

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by EmAy, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Btw, get a license to buy second hand gold and you can get long right now at around $250 or so :)
     
    #111     Sep 19, 2006
  2. I just leafed through the whole thread and I must admit I'm rather disappointed. There are hardly any arguments given for either side (long, short, flat), nor is there any deeper analysis of the situation.

    Most of the time when a product is announced it is a good sign for histeria, e.g. nano-tech funds, silver etf when silver hit ~16$ and so on.

    Secondly, gold was not always the inflation hedge everyone is so found of talking about. This relationship is not static at all.

    We are in a phase in the business cycle where are commodities in general and precious metals in spefic are poised to correct.

    If we have a real secondary bear-market in gold we will be likely to correct to at least 450-500$.

    I would be interested in the following: How can one analyse to what extent gold is an inflation hedge? What role do the dollar-holding of the asian central banks play?
     
    #112     Sep 21, 2006
  3. what in blazes is 2nd hand gold ?

    :p
     
    #113     Sep 21, 2006
  4. Gold for scrap, mostly used jewelry.
     
    #114     Sep 21, 2006
  5. You can t expect one thread to tell you all that , surely.

    Maybe what your after is in the economics forums, there are plenty of reasons to take gold positions in their, for sure. Big time.








    Oh, "second hand gold", i thought that was a a term you'd hear from your fence........
     
    #115     Sep 22, 2006
  6. Nebula

    Nebula

    Will gold's upside potential be capped by the "unconventional" oils eg. oil shales and canadian oil sands ?

    since gold is bought as a hedge against inflation (and declining dollar), a cap on oil prices will also mean a cap on gold's upside potential.

    the technolgies used for the oil shales and canadian sands are not able to produce cheaper oil yet, but the canadian sands are currently producing 1 miliiion barrels of oil per day.

    also, the oil shales are ready for production, just that it is still not economically viable, yet. but if oil goes north to 80 or above, oil shales will be a good substitute.

    so yes canadian oil sands and oil shales may not be substitutes for conventional oil yet, but when prices get too high "unconventional" oil may possibly cap the upside potential.

    we also have shell ceo and bp chief grp exec saying that oil prices will decline significantly.

    Sept. 18, 2006 issue - Shell CEO Heroen van der Veer was calling the drop in oil prices even before it began last week. An oil-industry veteran who is not given to rash predictions, he spoke recently to NEWSWEEK's Rana Foroohar about the industry's most pressing questions, including oil nationalism, security and those threatening prices.

    Do you agree with those like BP's John Browne who see prices falling to $40, or even $25 to $30 a barrel in the long run?

    We don't give the precise figures. But we do believe that future prices will be significantly lower than today.

    Increasingly powerful state oil companies are limiting Western access to the world's known reserves. Does that worry you?

    Easy oil is now mostly in the hands of state-owned companies. The added value of multinational companies like Shell is that with cutting-edge technology we can be very good in unconventionals—oil and gas that doesn't easily come out of the ground. That would include things like oil sands, oil shale and deepwater reserves.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14788769/site/newsweek/
     
    #116     Oct 10, 2006
  7. Gold, is, again, at bargain basement prices.

    Suspecting a leg (abc)down from here, over a week, or so, then basically a rocket up.

    jmo. Dont be sittin around waiting though.
     
    #117     Oct 10, 2006
  8. No rocket up is possible until after the elections.
     
    #118     Oct 10, 2006
  9. #119     Oct 10, 2006
  10. Ok, so it wasnt much of a rocket.........
    Still, not a shabby call, no?
    :)

    http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.a...&vol=Y&evnt=adv&grid=Y&code=BSTK&org=stk&fix=

    Question, is will this hold.
    I suspect it will, mostly.

    If so much as a whisper of disaster spread, and if you think north korean brinkmanship doesnt count, well.........

    You may be right, but you CANNOT discount all time indice highs, and the respectively low price of gold in the current economic climate.

    $RM$ may be right here, the real rocket CANT occur until after the elections, but this is difficult.

    Basically, lower prices would, or should, be a bargain.
     
    #120     Oct 18, 2006