Gold A "Safe Haven" In This Market Decline?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Scataphagos, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. trader99

    trader99

    so frustrated with GC! It just doesn't move1 Should I bail now? I feel like the breaking point is coming... Yet it doesn't come..
     
    #21     Nov 27, 2018
  2. maxinger

    maxinger


    gold day range has been rather bad.
    It can hardly exceed 80 ticks day range.

    Index futures have much better day range.
     
    #22     Nov 27, 2018
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  3. themickey

    themickey

    Only you can answer the question as it depends upon an individual's circumstances and what they want to do with their trading style.
    Gold has been a pig to trade since approx mid 2011, so that's 9 years, however as previously mentioned it usually manages a rally around Christmas/January.
    A catalyst for a run is most likely a fall in USD but that is staying strong due to Fed's insistance on raising interest rates. Trump is attempting to convince them otherwise which I agree with, Fed is being too ambitious in too much of a hurry imo.
    I think even a small fall in USD should see gold rally.
    Next Fed meeting is Dec 18 & 19th.
    The Rupee (INR) which is often viewed as a bellwether continues to gain strength after a nasty pullback but the bounce may just be a reactive correction from being oversold.
    US gold companies atm certainly not looking optimistic as of yesterday's trading, but imo gold is not a safehaven in market declines, it rises and falls to its own moods with USD being a major influence.
     
    #23     Nov 27, 2018
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  4. trader99

    trader99

    My Dec GC contract expires 12/27/18. Given the Fed meeting is 12/18- 12/19, I'll wait til then. Perhaps they will raise one more time and pause. That should be sufficient to stall the dollar rally and hopefully make gold rally.

    It has been a poor safe haven play!

    In the meantime, I've been trading PCG stock and cryptos. GC trade has become a long term position trade.

    Now I realize I'm more of a swing trader rather than a long term position trader. Daytrading has very little appeal to me nowadays.

    It's good to find one's niche.
     
    #24     Nov 27, 2018
  5. trader99

    trader99

    I don't daytrade GC nor index futures(anymore). Though the intraday range on NQ is quite appetizing...
     
    #25     Nov 27, 2018
  6. Grentez

    Grentez

    I believe that gold, like a currency, can fall as well as grow. And at the moment, gold has all the indicators of decline, and there is no confidence in its growth, although a few years ago it was reliable.
     
    #26     Nov 30, 2018
  7. tomorton

    tomorton

    I keep banging on about only index values having inherent positive buoyancy, so I suppose I'd have to say if you can go long and hold the major US indices themselves, these are nearest to a long-term safe haven. Though I quibble with the word "safe": "low risk" has more truth.
     
    #27     Nov 30, 2018
  8. trader99

    trader99

    The damn dollar is too strong. This is what's holding gold back...
     
    #28     Nov 30, 2018
  9. trader99

    trader99

    Hopefully this is the breakout in gold that I've been waiting for...
     
    #29     Dec 2, 2018
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you're gonna have a bad day tomorrow
     
    #30     Dec 2, 2018