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Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by studentofthemarkets, Jul 3, 2021.

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  1. themickey

    themickey

    Yeah I know, church is all about benefits.

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    #821     Jan 20, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Hill Billy? :)
     
    #822     Jan 20, 2022
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  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Oh Baron, friend, you are walking into the quagmire here.

    Welcome to the world of the RED pill.
     
    #823     Jan 20, 2022
  4. ph1l

    ph1l

    Some books were apparently removed from the Bible.
    https://pennbookcenter.com/how-many-books-were-removed-from-the-bible/
    How Many Books Were Removed From The Bible? Best Update 2022
    The reason could be conflicts with other parts of the Bible.
     
    #824     Jan 20, 2022
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  5. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    Ok, first of all, you keep quoting very limited portions of the Bible as some sort of evidence of your beliefs, and I totally get where you're coming from. But if you take your approach and apply it to any other area of life, nothing you've quoted would hold much water at all. For example, in my estimation, the average Christian is familiar with about 25% of the Bible, and that's being very, very generous. In reality, most Christians that I know are familiar with less than 10% of the scriptures. But for the sake of argument, let's stick with 25%.

    Would you say that a person would be considered an expert, or even authoritative, in any subject on the planet by reading 25% of one book? Imagine if you read 1/4th of a book on mathematics, or history, or science, or politics, and then deemed yourself an expert? Or let's go to the extreme and pretend you read 100% of one book, believed it to be true, and now have everything figured out in life. It sounds so ridiculous but that's exactly what believers do. They get the bare bones thumbnail sketch of biblical teaching and then proceed like they are now experts in pretty much all of life's critical questions. How did creation come to be? No problem! How to handle any situation in life? It's all right in the scriptures! What happens when we die? It's all laid out in black and white!.... and the list goes on and on. And when I step back and observe that behavior, the famous quote from Osho instantly comes to mind:

    "The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it."
     
    #825     Jan 20, 2022
  6. themickey

    themickey

    I think OP may rue the day he started this thread, bet ya he doesn't do it again. :) :)
     
    #826     Jan 20, 2022
  7. userque

    userque

    Your answers are not full. For example, you gave an example of how you would just say "you don't know."

    I asked you for clarity, and gave a specific example and asked would you also give that same answer to the example question. There is nothing wrong with getting clarity during a debate. Yet you want to vilify doing that during a debate, and labeling clarifying as "arguing."
    I asked how you would respond to a scientific question. Would you give it the same scrutiny as you do religious questions. My premise was that you are biased, which is a fair position to investigate during a debate.

    I asked more that once because to date, you haven't answered the simple example questions.
    Nor did I. Again, I wanted to see if you would answer secular questions in the way you say you answer religious question. My questions are clear and simple to any reader, imo. Nothing complex or complicated.
    Read above for my intention.

    Once again, words are being put into my mouth. You could simply have asked me my intentions (rather than claiming to know them), like I did you with your prophecy timeframe restriction. And also, I actually made posts setting forth how religion and science actually work together.
    Once again, ASK.

    I generally don't bang on about myself unless it's relevant to making my point. Rarely is one data point (me) relevant. I've been busy trying to get you to clarify your positions.

    Now maybe we could have progressed to where the discussing focused on me personally, but you never asked any questions; and I never got past discussing prophecy (again!?).

    It'd be different if you posted, "I've asked you questions, but you don't answer any."

    I see this everywhere and IRL. It's like questions have become a thing of the past ... like cursive writing.

    Folks, if you want to know something, just ask.
    In this case, my premise is that a scripture that documents fulfilled prophecy evidences the super natural, etc. It's that simple, and the logic would proceed from there, but we never get that far. Non-believers seem to really have a problem facing up to prophecy.

    1. What personal information should I have included that's relevant to my premise?
    2. ... that would help you understand the premise?
    3. ... that would normally be included by others?
    4. Why don't/didn't you just ask me what you think should be included; just like I've been asking you questions that I am curious about?

    I renew my unanswered questions.
    I get it if you no longer want to debate.
    I'm good either way. :)
     
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  8. userque

    userque

    Nice! Modern style, upbeat.
     
    #828     Jan 20, 2022
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  9. Actually, this is kinda fun, though time consuming. I'm not getting done what I should be doing tonight! lol:)
     
    #829     Jan 20, 2022
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  10. userque

    userque

    Not a response a troll wants to hear. LMAO!

    I hope he doesn't play poker. It's so easy to read that you love this stuff.
     
    #830     Jan 20, 2022
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