God is...

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by studentofthemarkets, Jul 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. themickey

    themickey

    @Overnight, you once posted Jamars videos of "run!!!", scary nuns, you still got those? They were funny. :)
     
    #1121     Jan 27, 2022
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    I do not recall scary nuns at this time. :-\
     
    #1122     Jan 27, 2022
  3. themickey

    themickey

     
    #1123     Jan 27, 2022
    studentofthemarkets likes this.
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    No, never posted that one, but it is funny.
     
    #1124     Jan 27, 2022
    themickey likes this.
  5. wildchild

    wildchild

     
    #1125     Jan 27, 2022
  6. https://www.gotquestions.org/for-freedom-Christ-has-set-us-free.html

    Before Christ’s sacrifice, we lived under bondage to the law (Galatians 4:3). We were burdened by demands we could not keep (Acts 15:10). Christ’s death and resurrection broke our bondage to the law. Jesus’ perfect life and holy sacrifice on the cross was the complete fulfillment of the law, and anyone who trusts in Him for salvation is made right with God. Only Christians have true freedom from the law. John 8:36 confirms, “If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”​
     
    #1126     Jan 27, 2022
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Have you noticed, many christians have a stern face and are usually disciplinarians with their kids?
    The bible is not going to teach about having fun, just like a book on hunting is not going to teach veternarian skills.
    In other words, the bible is not what I would call balanced, they teach heaps about hell and punishment, not much about having fun and chilling out.
    The church, all they want is commitment and you have to pay for the privelege.
    Where's the freedom, oh that's right, wait until you die.
     
    #1127     Jan 27, 2022
    murray t turtle likes this.
  8. Nope.

    Psalm 126:2: “We were filled with laughter, and we sang for joy.

    Proverbs 15:13: “A glad heart makes a happy face; a broken heart crushes the spirit.”

    Jeremiah 31:13: “The young women will dance for joy, and the men—old and young—will join in the celebration. I will turn their mourning into joy. I will comfort them and exchange their sorrow for rejoicing.”

    John 15:11: “I have told you these things so that you will be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy will overflow!”

    1 Peter 1:8: “You love him even though you have never seen him. Though you do not see him now, you trust him; and you rejoice with a glorious, inexpressible joy.”

    Nope. Once God "has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son" then there is no more fear of God's wrath and no need to think about hell. I rarely think about hell except sometimes when discussing with people on this thread. :sneaky:

    "they shared with anyone who was in need.46With one accord they continued to meet daily in the temple courtsl and to break bread from house to house, sharing their meals with gladness and sincerity of heart, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people."
    Acts 2:45b, 46

    That's not true for my church or a balanced Bible believing church.
     
    #1128     Jan 27, 2022
  9. Oh no.

    Someone else here has a stern face too!


    [​IMG]
     
    #1129     Jan 27, 2022
    userque likes this.
  10. themickey

    themickey

    How Pentecostalism is reshaping America and the world
    With 600 million followers, the evangelical born-again Christian movement is deep-pocketed and tech-savvy - and it has big ambitions to reform the society in which we live.

    Julie HareEducation editor Jan 29, 2022 https://www.afr.com/world/north-ame...shaping-america-and-the-world-20220126-p59rfp

    Scott Morrison may be Australia’s second most famous Pentecostal after his mentor, Hillsong founder Brian Houston, but he is far from the norm. Those who subscribe to the youthful, feel-good, glam-rock, self-help teachings of the Pentecostal church tend not to be white, 50-something and male.

    “The Filipina who cleans your house is more your average Pentecostal,” says Elle Hardy, author of a new book on the global rise of the Pentecostal church.

    [​IMG]
    Pentecostal churches are on track to become the world’s dominant faith. AFP

    With 600 million followers globally, the Pentecostal movement is shredding traditional religions. In Brazil, which was once considered the most Catholic country on Earth, over 30 per cent of the population now describe themselves as evangelicals, most of whom are Pentecostals.

    It’s predicted that by 2032 they will outnumber those who identify as Catholics. Globally, the number of practising Pentecostals is predicted to rise to 1 billion by 2050, that’s one in eight people on the planet.

    “In just over a century since its founding, Pentecostalism has grown from a spontaneous outpouring of faith at a small church in downtown Los Angeles to become possibly the fastest-growing religion on Earth,” writes Elle Hardy in her book Beyond Belief: How Pentecostal Christianity is taking over the world.

    Islam and Hinduism, because of their high birth rates, are “the great competitors in the global race for souls”, says Hardy, but no single denomination is “getting people in the tent quite like the Pentecostals”.

    [​IMG]
    Scott Morrison at his Horizon Church during the 2019 election campaign. AAP

    Pentecostalism is an umbrella name for a range of brands and denominations. According to Hardy, they go by the name of Presbyterians in Korea, evangelicos in Latin America and non-denominational in Australia, although Hillsong is by far the best-known.

    “While it’s ever more difficult to identify a Pentecostal church by what it might call itself, this is very much in keeping with a faith that has, from its first days, been distinguished by actions rather than rigid doctrine,” writes Hardy.

    ‘A self-help course from Hillsong’
    Scott Morrison, for the record, is a member of the Horizon Church in the Sydney suburb of Sutherland, not Hillsong as is popularly thought. And despite social media posts that have been doing the rounds this week, there are not 13 Pentecostals in his cabinet. In fact, the only other signed-up Pentecostal is his close ally and colleague Stuart Robert, who is a member of Metro Church on the Gold Coast.

    What binds the different brands under the Pentecostal umbrella is the unifying belief that the church doesn’t communicate with God on its followers’ behalf but empowers them to feel the Spirit of God within themselves.

    “Pentecostalism is very good at the uplift,” says Hardy. “In the old days you might have gone to a priest to confess your sins. Now, you’re buying a self-help course from Hillsong or Bethel [in California] and doing it at home.”

    With 600 million followers and rising and the sound of big money from merchandise, music sales and tithing cha-chinging through bank accounts, it is little wonder that some factions of the Pentecostal movement have sights set on global domination.

    This is especially true in the US, where something called the Seven Mountain Mandate has made serious headway into the Republican Party.

    [​IMG]
    Apostolic Pentecostals celebrate Easter in a field in Soweto, South Africa. AP

    “A plan by a shadowy group of ‘prophets’ and ‘apostles’ to take over the world sounds like the stuff of a bad airport novel, but it is one of the most important ideas in the Pentecostal movement today,” writes Hardy.

    “The premise of 7M, as it’s often called, is that the seven pillars of society have been taken over by demonic powers. Believers have to reclaim control of these ‘mountains’ so that Christ can return to rule over the Earth.”

    The seven mountains are education, religion, family, business, government and the military, arts and entertainment, and the media.

    “So what drives global Pentecostalism today is still the inevitable Judgement Day, only now it’s imbued with the idea that believers can work towards it, and in anticipation of it, they can bring it about through their actions here on Earth,” writes Hardy.

    ‘Given up on democracy’
    Indeed, Pentecostals are increasingly “concerned with the here and now”, says Hardy, and that secular society, or the elites, are taking over the world and they need to fight back.

    “Reshaping America and the world so that Christ can return just so happens to look a lot like gaining power in the here and now,” writes Hardy.

    And the 7M movement provides “supernatural justification” for the “politics of the Christian right coming to terms with the diminishment of white Christians as a proportion of the US and world population”.

    [​IMG]
    Members of the New York Hillsong church perform a Beatles-themed concert. NYT

    Hardy makes the point that Christian Dominionism is about seeing a religiously run America that conforms to Pentecostal values.

    “It’s pretty clear that a lot on the religious right in America have given up on democracy, they know they have lost the battle, and you hear instead the line that the US is a republic, not a democracy,” Hardy says.

    “It’s about conquering and victory. That’s where the seven mountains come in because if you can control the seven pillars of society, you can transform society.”

    War against equality
    Donald Trump was a gift to the Pentecostalists. His rise, along with Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, Hungary’s Viktor Orban and Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines, lies in no small part to the rise of Pentecostals. The movement has a penchant for populist, strong-arm leaders with a flair for entertaining the masses, on one hand, while simultaneously scorning the cultural Marxists with their post-modern notions of gay marriage, gender identity, racial and sexual equality.

    A 2019 US study found that 53 per cent of Pentecostals agreed that Trump had been anointed by God.

    “Long a shelter for the marginalised and the dispossessed, in an age of gross inequality, Pentecostalism is becoming synonymous with an anti-liberal worldview,” writes Hardy.

    Along with a raft of other bad actors, Hardy says it comes as little surprise that the “Stop the Steal” storming of the Capitol in Washington DC on January 6, 2021 involved 7M soldiers.

    As one pastor who spoke to the crowd that day put it: “We are not just in a culture war, we are in a kingdom war.” At the same time, a Pentecostal magazine put up a Facebook post that said: “There are but two parties right now, traitors and patriots.”
    “What happened on January 6 wasn’t only important for its symbolic value, but also in highlighting the value of the whole show – Trump prophecies, deep-state conspiracies, political adversaries possessed by demons – as entertainment,” writes Hardy.

    “In the crushing modernity of the Third Pentecostal wave, faith is being gamified. The Seven Mountains Mandate is now part of a cinematic, right-wing Facebook universe, where people can post themselves into a frenzy about good and evil, grand plots to take over the world, and a group of believers banding together to fight back.”

    The Pentecostal idea of faith is transactional, says Hardy. These people have been chosen to have the Spirit move through them and they have to use that Spirit.

    “They have to work for the ultimate promise to be fulfilled,” she writes. “And when you are called to war, passive faith is no longer an option.”
     
    #1130     Jan 28, 2022
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.