Thanks for the link. I didn't see anything about translations that were purposefully deceitful or could not be trusted. Instead I found this: While early English Bibles were generally based on a small number of Greek texts, or on Latin translations, modern English translations of the Bible are based on a wider variety of manuscripts in the original languages (Greek and Hebrew). The translators put much scholarly effort into cross-checking the various sources such as the Septuagint, Textus Receptus, and Masoretic Text. Relatively recent discoveries such as the Dead Sea scrolls provide additional reference information. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_English
Fake voices, you guys are sooooo easily hoodwinked. No wonder you are such easily led suckers for Christian shysters.
God created humans (computers) and loaded us with code (DNA), but code that can make some choices. He placed us in an environment where we can be infected with a virus (devil/evil). All humans are infected with virus. In order to clean up the virus He's going to destroy most computers and code He created (hell). Some computers He can save so that they can never be infected again. Why He just didn't do that in the first place.....?
@themickey said: Some computers He can save so that they can never be infected again. Why He just didn't do that in the first place.....? Well, if no being ever rebelled against Him, then there would have never been an infection in the first place. Why did God create beings who could choose to rebel? A lot of theologians debate over whether or not people have "free will" and if they do, then to what extent is our will "free" and is our "free will" in a fallen condition different than the "free will" that Adam and Eve had in their perfect condition. My own opinion (not sure that my opinion matters) is that God is in control of everything and knows all the future and yet is so powerful and intelligent and capable, that He not only is controlling all things, but created beings who have true free choice. My definition of free is that our choices are never, ever, forced by God. God may limit what is available to choose and God can change the desires of our heart, without violating our free will. I believe that our free will is important to God and He respect that--meaning that when someone chooses to go against the very limited knowledge of God we have, and obviously very varying degrees of the knowledge of God, that God is a "gentleman" and let's us go our own way. God, however, does seek all people out, see 2 Chron 16:9. Some He seeks more than others. Some He gives more light/understanding to than others. Some people He continues to go after, after multiple rejections, and sometimes they are saved, sometimes they are not. One example is Paul's testimony. When Paul was still called Saul and persecuting Christians, Jesus visibly revealed Himself to him. What is very interesting about this is that Jesus said to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads." Acts 26:14 BSB Goads were sticks with a pointed tip used for getting an animal to go in a certain direction. This would seem to mean that Jesus had been trying to get his attention many times previously and Paul would "kick" against these promptings. If God had stopped going after Saul/Paul, then his decision to continue his own way would have left him without Christ for all eternity. Thankfully, God didn't give up, but it took a blinding light and loud voice from heaven to get his attention. So, that, is a good example, in the Bible, of how God works to try to get us stubborn people to stop going our own way and seek Him. Going back to your question as to why, I'm sure we don't have all of God's reasons for the why behind creating us, knowing we would end up in this state. But what I do believe with all my heart is that from God's viewpoint He sees that He has in no way been responsible for our sinful condition, that is entirely our fault. And He also knows the efforts He has made to lead mankind to truth about Himself, which He sees as being gracious to us, not out of obligation to us. In other words, because we truly are in our condition by choice, God sees it as our fault, not His, and all attempts to deliver people are out of His kindness towards us. And one more thing. I think that this is true also, that God really values our relationships with Him. Not just ours, but the angels as well, to the extent that He believed it was worth creating us, knowing that some would go to hell from their own choices. One way to look at it is this: Why should God and good angels and those people that do get saved be deprived of the wonderfulness of knowing God in relationship that can be described as only knowing good, forever, simply because some, by their own choices, chose evil over God and will be in hell? One more thing. Although hell is that which has nothing good about it, it is the evil, after we see separation of good and evil, and a place of eternal torment, it does have a GOOD purpose. That good purpose is to reveal that evil should be punished. One reason, I believe for allowing this world to continue in a fallen state for a while is to allow the demonstration of evil to play out. God didn't just say, Oh, now these beings have become corrupted, I will destroy them immediately. Instead, by allowing evil to play itself out, God has allowed the angels and people to see the effects evil and turning away from God, who is completely good, has had. Romans 9:22 What if God, intending to show His wrath and make His power known, bore with great patience the vessels of His wrath, prepared for destruction?
But if the ticket into heaven is only through someone, that's not a free choice. Its like saying, if you want to go to the circus you need to meet certain conditions before you can go. A free choice means I can just go, no free choice means I need to meet conditions.