God is...

studentofthemarkets · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
Or to put it in plain english, the bible translations have been fucked around with no end since the beginning of time.
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Please prove that or you will be FACT CHECKED.

Overnight · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
Or to put it in plain english, the bible translations have been fucked around with no end since the beginning of time.
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What I'd like to know is who the hell were the peeps who could translate Aramaic into Hebrew, then into Greek, then into Latin, then into Old English, then into Middle English, then into Modern English.

Methinks there's a bit lost in the translation there!

studentofthemarkets · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
And if Jesus disciples don't write anything but the next generations are a witness to these things (when they weren't) thats the word of God.
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That is NOT what happened, and I already showed you evidence for that. Jesus' disciples did write parts of the Bible.

userque · Jan 25, 2022

Serious Biblical research involves validating the translation being used with the original Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic texts; or working from the original texts exclusively.

@themickey knows this.

themickey · Jan 25, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
That is NOT what happened, and I already showed you evidence for that. Jesus' disciples did write parts of the Bible.
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Yes they did too, they were Jesus disciples writing out of their coffins.

studentofthemarkets · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
The King James Version (KJV), also the King James Bible (KJB) and the Authorized Version, is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England, which was commissioned in 1604 and published in 1611, by sponsorship of King James VI and I
In Geneva, Switzerland, the first generation of Protestant Reformers had produced the Geneva Bible of 1560 from the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures, which was influential in the writing of the Authorized King James Version.
James gave the translators instructions intended to ensure that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology—and reflect the episcopal structure—of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy. The translation was done by 6 panels of translators (47 men in all, most of whom were leading biblical scholars in England) who had the work divided up between them.

The followers of John Wycliffe undertook the first complete English translations of the Christian scriptures in the 14th century. These translations were banned in 1409 due to their association with the Lollards.

These English expatriates undertook a translation that became known as the Geneva Bible. This translation, dated to 1560, was a revision of Tyndale's Bible and the Great Bible on the basis of the original languages. Soon after Elizabeth I took the throne in 1558, the flaws of both the Great Bible and the Geneva Bible (namely, that the Geneva Bible did not "conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its beliefs about an ordained clergy") became painfully apparent. In 1568, the Church of England responded with the Bishops' Bible, a revision of the Great Bible in the light of the Geneva version. While officially approved, this new version failed to displace the Geneva translation as the most popular English Bible of the age—in part because the full Bible was only printed in lectern editions of prodigious size and at a cost of several pounds. Accordingly, Elizabethan lay people overwhelmingly read the Bible in the Geneva Version—small editions were available at a relatively low cost. At the same time, there was a substantial clandestine importation of the rival Douay–Rheims New Testament of 1582, undertaken by exiled Roman Catholics. This translation, though still derived from Tyndale, claimed to represent the text of the Latin Vulgate.
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King James didn't translate the Bible.
You don't even have to read a King James Bible. There are lots of translations around today. Pick one that says it tried to be true to the manuscripts, and that's all you need. There are some versions that happily announce that they are not true to the texts, they have modernized the texts according to their fancy. Stay away from those if you want to get as close to the original meanings as possible.

studentofthemarkets · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
The King James Version (KJV), also the King James Bible (KJB) and the Authorized Version, is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England, which was commissioned in 1604 and published in 1611, by sponsorship of King James VI and I
In Geneva, Switzerland, the first generation of Protestant Reformers had produced the Geneva Bible of 1560 from the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures, which was influential in the writing of the Authorized King James Version.
James gave the translators instructions intended to ensure that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology—and reflect the episcopal structure—of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy. The translation was done by 6 panels of translators (47 men in all, most of whom were leading biblical scholars in England) who had the work divided up between them.

The followers of John Wycliffe undertook the first complete English translations of the Christian scriptures in the 14th century. These translations were banned in 1409 due to their association with the Lollards.

These English expatriates undertook a translation that became known as the Geneva Bible. This translation, dated to 1560, was a revision of Tyndale's Bible and the Great Bible on the basis of the original languages. Soon after Elizabeth I took the throne in 1558, the flaws of both the Great Bible and the Geneva Bible (namely, that the Geneva Bible did not "conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its beliefs about an ordained clergy") became painfully apparent. In 1568, the Church of England responded with the Bishops' Bible, a revision of the Great Bible in the light of the Geneva version. While officially approved, this new version failed to displace the Geneva translation as the most popular English Bible of the age—in part because the full Bible was only printed in lectern editions of prodigious size and at a cost of several pounds. Accordingly, Elizabethan lay people overwhelmingly read the Bible in the Geneva Version—small editions were available at a relatively low cost. At the same time, there was a substantial clandestine importation of the rival Douay–Rheims New Testament of 1582, undertaken by exiled Roman Catholics. This translation, though still derived from Tyndale, claimed to represent the text of the Latin Vulgate.
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Here you go. Pick a version that isn't King James.
https://biblehub.com/psalms/119-160.htm

studentofthemarkets · Jan 25, 2022

themickey said:
Yes they did too, they were Jesus disciples writing out of their coffins.
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Did not!

Overnight · Jan 25, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
Here you go. Pick a version that isn't King James.
https://biblehub.com/psalms/119-160.htm
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Prepositions...The death of Biblical consistency.

themickey · Jan 25, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
Please prove that or you will be FACT CHECKED.
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Bible translations into English
Partial Bible translations into languages of the English people can be traced back to the late 7th century, including translations into Old and Middle English. More than 100 complete translations into English have been written.....

Too much here to copy and paste...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_English