Animal sacrifice was a work that was required for salvation, but doesn't earn salvation. Maybe I mistakenly led you to believe that I disagree with this ... I don't Again, maybe I mistakenly led you to believe that I disagree with this ... I don't Again, maybe I mistakenly led you to believe that I disagree with this ... I don't Paul was writing to the Church of Corinth, not non-believers. Jesus died for believers. Those left behind didn't believe. If they become believers after the tribulation, there is a procedure they must follow: repent and be baptized--The Age of The Kingdom. It doesn't negate what Jesus did. Jesus died for the church/believers; then the church is raptured. Those left behind are not 'The Church,'/believers and, as the references I cited indicate, those left behind must follow a different gospel for salvation; just as the world had to do upon Jesus' ascension--switch to Grace instead of Law. A reader of The Bible can read some of The Bible and understand the Age of The Law. They could also mistakenly think that The Law applies at all times into the future. But The Age of Grace replaced The Law, yet, the scriptures describing The Law are still in The Bible--and can potentially be confusing to readers. This also applies to the Age of Grace. The Age of Grace will end. That ending does not say/mean that God is no longer graceful. And even while God is graceful, he has always attached works onto salvation. Doing a work because you are instructed to for possible salvation is not the same as doing a work thinking that it'll get you salvation. God: Do this, that, and the other, and my grace may then grant you salvation. The-work and grace function together, as The Bible teaches. You've brought up the similarities between the salvation gospels before. Now, a debate as to how similar the two gospels are is a different debate, one where I haven't entered an assertion. My point is not whether they are similar; my point is that the Age of Grace ("AOG") ends at the rapture, and salvation must come through a different process than that of the AOG. This makes sense to me given the major nature of the rapture and start of the tribulation. Jesus ascending was also major event, and caused salvation requirements to change. Both processes require God's approval, or grace, or whatever you want to call it. Both processes also require some sort of work; whether a blood sacrifice, or a belief in Jesus, or a baptism. Just as The Law ended, The Age of Grace will end. Once the AOG began, salvation via the gospel of The Law ended. And again, the 'Age of Grace' is not the same as just the word 'grace.' God has always had they ability to extend grace; that is not the same as a set of actions etc. that must be done for salvation--a set of actions labeled, the AOG. Simply: Jesus died for the believers. Believers are raptured up. Only Non-believers are left. So Jesus' blood no longer protects them as The Bible gives new salvation requirements to those people. (See my previous post for cites.) And since they are given new requirements, obviously, the prior requirements no longer apply--just as it happened in the transition from Law to Grace. I don't think this topic is well-settled amongst the experts, so our disagreement is understandable. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree--if all arguments have been presented.
Sounds like the heathen have to read instructions from out of a users manual before they are issued with with a stamp of approval at the pearly gates.
1. What verses do you see supporting the idea of a different gospel? 2. What verse(s) led you to this: If they become believers after the tribulation, there is a procedure they must follow: repent and be baptized--The Age of The Kingdom. 3. What verse(s) led you to this description of TODAY's gospel message: And even while God is graceful, he has always attached works onto salvation. Doing a work because you are instructed to for possible salvation is not the same as doing a work thinking that it'll get you salvation. Also, I think I'm going to switch tactics with you in this debate and simply ask you questions. (Although I reserve the right to go back to normal responses if I decide to.....just trying something and you are the guinea pig. )
LOL Experiment all you like! Gospel of The Kingdom and The Gospel of The Grace of God are not the same: https://graceambassadors.com/midacts/the-gospel-of-the-kingdom-vs-the-gospel-of-the-grace-of-god Gospel of The Kingdom is the last Gospel, before the end. I believe the 'end' is the end of the tribulation. https://www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-c.html#15c QUOTED---------------------------------------- Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom..." This Gospel of the Kingdom. Not the Gospel of Grace. We preach today the Gospel of Grace that you must believe for your salvation, that Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead. Jesus Himself revealed that to the Apostle Paul, and Paul alone, in I Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10 and many other places in Paul's writing. But Jesus and the twelve preached the Gospel of the Kingdom which is believing for salvation that Jesus was the Messiah, repentance, and baptism. This is found in Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and many other Scriptures in the four Gospels and the Book of Acts through at least Chapter 15. So this gospel of the Kingdom: Matthew 24:14b "...shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Isn't that plain? But you have to know which Gospel. Paul tells us in Galatians 2:7-9 that there were two Gospels, one that he (Paul) preached to the Gentiles (uncircumcision) by revelation from Jesus Christ. And the other that John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 12 preached to the Jews or Nation of Israel (circumcision). So as you study, notice who is speaking and who is being spoken to. Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall (at a future time.) be preached in all the world for a witness unto (how many?) all nations; and then shall the end come." Now, you see how simple that is when you put it in the right prospective. I've had good friends of mine lift this verse out of context, and say we have to get the Gospel into every nation before the Lord can come. That's not what Jesus was talking about. The Gospel of Grace is a calling out a people for His Name, absolutely. But it's going to end, and the Tribulation is going to come in and then Jesus said, "The same Gospel of the Kingdom that He preached in His three years of ministry will be proclaimed again during the Tribulation." Now can you keep that? Put that up here. Just stop and think. If that Good News is proclaimed to every nation on earth, that the King is coming, it will last for the whole seven years. Notice Jesus did not mention the Church Age and the Gospel of Grace. He skips over it from His ministry to the Tribulation. And that will be the message that the 144,000 young Jewish men will preach to the world. The King is coming, and indeed He will be! Editor's Note: After the rapture takes place, the Age of Grace will have ended. Then during the tribulation, the 144,000 young Jewish men will be teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. The message will be that the Kingdom is at hand and the Messiah, the King, is coming, as it was prophesied. Therefore, repent of your sins and be baptized with water. END QUOTE------------