GME AMC Options Anomalies

Discussion in 'Options' started by JamesJ, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. zghorner

    zghorner

    Vega is a mother fucker.
     
    #11     Feb 2, 2021
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  2. destriero

    destriero

    Simply, vol trades with price in meme stocks. It's the only way you can print 500+ vols. Index vol trades inverse to price (generally). When the bubble broke the vols imploded with the stock.
     
    #12     Feb 2, 2021
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  3. zghorner

    zghorner

    Did vol “implode with the stock” basically because the swings last week were more aggressive than this week? It happened when the price started to melt away from highs...Seems to be moving pretty fast back down to where it came from but Seems less violent to me but I’m literally fucking retarded.
     
    #13     Feb 2, 2021
  4. destriero

    destriero

    There are some limitations to pricing models. Like greeks in reporting season (pre/post vol-drift) and micro-driven liquidity. The vols cannot be sustained when the price action is one way (down) as the driver of the vol was unlimited upside risk due to short covering. In reality it wasn't that crowded a trade (short GME) but the perception gave it life and the reversion (to the mean) of short-interest followed. You cannot support a 500 vol-line on the downside in a one-way market where the fundamental driver is gone.
     
    #14     Feb 3, 2021
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  5. destriero

    destriero

    FWIW, I shorted a 200-wide 10-point condor for >8 in GME. I had to leg each side in the verticals, but filled within minutes. The equity vol equivalent of negative oil futures.
     
    #15     Feb 3, 2021
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  6. This is especially true due to Robinhood traders. A newbie investor friend of mine bragged that he executed his GME call two weeks ago, well before the actual expiration. I don't know of a good "early assignment" indicator, but my guess is that it would be blaring loudly for GME vs. other stocks.
     
    #16     Feb 3, 2021
  7. destriero

    destriero

    *exercised/ WTF would you exercise a call in shares with a 500+ vol-figure?
     
    #17     Feb 3, 2021
  8. Justrade

    Justrade

    A newbie investor friend of mine....
     
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    #18     Feb 3, 2021
  9. destriero

    destriero



    They exercised because they are too stupid to look at the fwd/synthetic. They were pricing their options off the shares.
     
    #19     Feb 3, 2021
  10. Justrade

    Justrade

    Probably just not knowledgeable enough in options (like the options to look at synthetics)
     
    #20     Feb 3, 2021