GMCR giving me the jitters

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by NoDoji, Jun 4, 2009.

  1. But their earnings for 2011 are estimated at $2.85. If that turns out correct then a price at 98 will be a PE in the 30s. And by 2012 it would be down to 25 P/E. If it's still growing 40% by 2012 then it will be selling a lot higher than 25 P/E.

    So basically a 75 times PE is justified *if* it has huge growth. Of course if the growth flops, it will crash. But some of the top growth stocks of the past have had high PEs like this and then went on to make them look cheap with hindsight. Microsoft, Dell, Apple etc. And some boomed and then crashed like Iomega, Taser, Crox and so on.
     
    #51     Mar 18, 2010
  2. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Gotcha. Etrade only shows earnings estimates for 2010 and says the P/E is 75.

    I don't think GMCR will be another CROX, but I do think a large correction lies ahead once the competitors remove market share. BBBY had a Cuisinart promotional video playing in the single-cup coffee section.

    Look what happened to darling STEC when a hint of competition reared its head, and then further damage when demand faltered.
     
    #52     Mar 18, 2010
  3. Lol anyone ever heard of Tassimo, can't veen find teh discs in the stores anymore. FAD.
     
    #53     Mar 18, 2010
  4. WOW, anyone following this drop?
     
    #54     Apr 30, 2010
  5. mililani

    mililani

    The problem with STEC wasn't so much competition as it was Cisco being it's primary source of revenue. That was the big problem. Cisco came out and said they had tons of STEC inventory on the books and they weren't getting drawn down. STEC plunged in the wake. That's what happens when your source of revenue is just one big major customer. It happened to ASTG a year ago too.

    Anyways, I like SSD drives for the long haul. They'll make their way into consumer products, but there is also alot of competition there. Intel has SSD drives that are really competitive. I don't see any company completely dominating that market. For the enterprise, however, I think STEC has good marketshare. They have interesting RAID systems that boost RDBMS performance incredibly. I would take some positions in STEC at 10.

    GMCR. I haven't followed it in awhile. I sold that one after it ran 40%. Anyone have any scoops on it? Why the big drop? I'm guessing it's because of the downgrade?
     
    #55     Apr 30, 2010
  6. Was in Costco today tiny GMRC section of refills compared to last year when they had a massive display. Fad run its course stay short.
     
    #56     Apr 30, 2010
  7. bro59

    bro59

    Earnings on GMCR.

    They have crummy high-acid coffee anyway.
     
    #57     May 1, 2010
  8. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    As with all high flyers trading at ridiculous P/E, Price/Book and Price/Cash Flow levels levels, the earnings call had better mention huge upside growth going forward or the drop will be nasty.

    "67% on-year growth in K-Cup shipments fell short of analyst forecasts and represented a decline in sequential shipment growth."

    Uh oh, that's not what you want to hear when paying a premium for significant forward growth.
     
    #58     May 1, 2010
  9. mililani

    mililani

    No doubt. I never buy anything ahead of earnings. Never EVER. As an example, I was looking at CDCS test its trend line. It was in its channel. But, ahead of earnings? Should I buy? No. I'll just wait. Earnings came out and they barely missed the estimates. Stock tanked over 10%.

    Anyways, looks like the run for GMCR maybe over.
     
    #59     May 1, 2010