GM Bankruptcy Thread

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by The Kin, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. Bob111

    Bob111

    Ha! that's because M class was build in ALABAMA :p

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/reader_rides/1271026.html
     
    #161     May 26, 2009
  2. Soon

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    Bond Holders: Do you hear that General Motors?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Goodbye, General Motors...

    GM: My name is Government Motors!
     
    #162     May 27, 2009
  3. fhl

    fhl

    Word is that the gov't auto board wanted GM to enter bankruptcy, but didn't want the blame. So, they structure the deal so that no bondholder in their right mind would convert their bonds, and thus, voila, GM enters bankruptcy and it's not OBAMA'S fault! It's those evil speculators fault! Another Obama twofer!
     
    #163     May 27, 2009
  4. bradleyt

    bradleyt

    This is a tough one. Pay out or reboot yourself - folding is probably not an option and sooner or later someone will pop in to save the day.
     
    #164     May 27, 2009
  5. TM1982

    TM1982

    How long do you guys think GM will hold the $1 level?
     
    #165     May 27, 2009
  6. No idea. With a position like this I size for a "forever" hold and don't bother looking at it very often. It will be what it will be...
     
    #166     May 27, 2009
  7. fhl

    fhl


    News stories today pushing the line that it's those bad old bond daddies forcing GM into bankruptcy.

    Like I said above, make the bondholders an offer they must refuse, and then point the finger at them. They did it! Capitalism-bad! Unions-good!
     
    #167     May 28, 2009
  8. m22au

    m22au

    From my reading of the 8K, the proposed bondholder deal would result in the existing common stock being worth zero.

    Not a small amount, but zero.

    Why is that?

    According to the 8k,

    http://biz.yahoo.com/e/090528/gm8-k.html

    common stock in the new GM would be as follows:

    72.5% to the U.S. Treasury 2

    17.5% to New VEBA

    10% to Old GM

    My interpretation of "old GM" means bondholders.

    Therefore shareholders of "old GM" get zero of the stock in "new GM".
     
    #168     May 28, 2009
  9. That's also my reading; however, things can change. We need to see the formal exchange offer. The 1% never made any sense anyway.
     
    #169     May 28, 2009
  10. In less than 24 hours I shall be vindicated.
     
    #170     May 31, 2009